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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (15162)	9/17/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: dougjn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Maurice, believe it or not, I wasn't looking for your surrender. <g> I was looking, for once, to understand your ranting about American trade unfairness towards New Zealand. Despite some appearances I, and I think most Americans, think of New Zealand rather warmly. Personally, almost since I can remember knowing of your country's existence, I thought it might be a good place to sail off into the sunset to. <g> And I think most Americans think it rather a nice, and idyllic land. And yes. I would be amazed if ANY American (or anyone else outside of perhaps New Zealand or maybe Ozland) has ever understood any of your New Zealand trade rants against the U.S. Other than we're pissing you off somehow. I'd like to understand your U.S. unfair to NZ trade points. Serially. <gg> Regards, Doug

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (15162)	9/17/1998 10:28:00 PM
From: dougjn	Respond to of 152472

Rant at me. Darn it. <gg> I've given you perfectly good, if not excellent, excuses. <gg> Doug

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (15162)	9/17/1998 10:42:00 PM
From: dougjn	Respond to of 152472

Maurice, if you persist in hiding in your comfortably rural, and ergo idylic NZ abode, surrounded by sheep and other talismans of agrarian virute, and continue to avoid chating with me........ I just might post the ENTIRE STARR REPORT in retaliation, to up my word count in Ramsey's declared contest. <ggg> Top that, you Jeffersonian, you. <gg> Doug

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (15162)	9/19/1998 12:20:00 AM
From: Jon Koplik	Respond to of 152472

Alright Maurice, read the following. (Can we have a panel of U.S. researchers declare wool to be dangerous, since static electricity sparks can start fires?) September 18, 1998 Butter Said As Deadly As Cigarettes Filed at 11:12 p.m. EDT By The Associated Press AUCKLAND, New Zealand (AP) -- Butter, which is found in almost every pantry in the Western world, has been branded as deadly as cigarettes and should carry a similar health warning, researchers in New Zealand said Saturday. The Auckland University medical researchers said butter is as dangerous to the human heart as cigarettes and want shoppers constantly reminded of that fact. Rod Jackson, associate professor of epidemiology at Auckland University Medical School, said a diet high in saturated fats -- such as butter and other dairy products -- has made New Zealand among the top 10 nations in the world for occurrence of heart disease. ''I believe butter should have health warnings on the packets telling people they are risking heart attacks,'' Jackson said. ''It should be treated like a cigar -- only taken once a year at Christmas.'' Dairy farmers immediately branded the warning idea a ridiculous scare tactic. ''There's nothing wrong with butter in moderation. If you listened to everything these health experts said, you wouldn't go outside,'' said Federated Farmers' spokesman Kevin Wooding. Farmers' lobby president Malcolm Bailey said the evidence against butter was ''flimsy and misleading,'' and that butter also contained ''life-enhancing properties.'' People who enjoyed butter should not be deterred from using it by the ''intolerant few'' who don't, Bailey said. Copyright 1998 The New York Times Company