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To: patrick tang who wrote (29558)	9/18/1998 11:10:00 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 33344

Patrick In short, this whole thing shows the excesses of today's judicial system. From a half being half full perspective, you could say that it is still possible to find the truth, in spite of the fact that a large interconnected group has conspired to keep it hidden, and in spite of the fact that a majority of American people prefer the lie. Joe

To: patrick tang who wrote (29558)	9/20/1998 3:26:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 33344

Patrick; Re > in short, this whole thing shows the excesses of today's judicial system. It really shows a break down of the judicial system, which has been underway for some. More to the point it shows we are moving towards Fascism. The right wing is so obsessed with being in power that they are blinded by the light of it. They could care less if we become a Fascist state as long as they get elected. Anyone with half a brain can see this was nothing but vicious party politics, and Star supported by Big Tobacco did an end run around the judicial process, hence the principle of the separation of powers has broke down. When I look at how the evidence was collected, under duress ( after all Monica did not file any charges, and was more than willing from the clips I've seen , also it looks as if she was couched along the way. ) The whole thing hinges as much on her behavior as any thing which was apparently sponsored by people who felt an inquisition would benefit their move to more power. ------------------- Meanwhile the whole nation gets tied up and nothing gets done, except our enemies abroad have a field day and can exploit it no end, which in turn will cause us to react in a way and become even more Fascist. It's a downward spiral, it's odd how a blow job winds up being the bullet that finishes killing the principles the nation was built on. ------------------------ Perhaps we should rejoice at this, as it will have it's backlash. maybe it could not have happened had we not already have been well on our way. Tons and Tons of corruption has been swept under the rug and covered over for years, from secret bombings by Nixon in a form of Genocide to the CIA running drugs to the secret deals with Iran for reasons of personal political goals. If the Fascist can shove all this needless pornography down the throat of every American then why can't they open the files on the Kennedy assassination. Why should all the proceedings of that be kept under lock and key and top secret. --------------------------- Maybe this will wake up Americans that back in 1913, a secret society that we were warned about took control of most of the key positions of government and has now consolidated it's power with the full support of the Republicans. In effect we no longer have a government, it's nothing but a dressed up dictatorship process run from the shadows by Fascist. ------------------------------ You know the way Star has pulled this inquisition off, and how Monica and that other one who looks like a vampire was or is the key to this case, or at least winning it for the Republicans in all fairness we should make Monica the President..and the vampire her running mate. ----------------------------- So here we go , Monica for President, what the hell, lets ring a bell, and tie a ribbon on her, why not !! From my point of view she wouldn't be any worse than any of the others . Heck give her a chance, maybe we could all get some free perks. I'd sure rather have her as a president than Starr. Jim PS, I Have have not read the report , and have no intention of doing so. If the grand jury testimony is put on TV, then IMO every station that airs it is owned or controlled by a Fascist. With this type of end run, I don't see how a jury could ever be picked that has not been brain washed. No sort of trial could every be called fair, I think we have just tossed the judicial system out with the bath water. And national TV has replaced the court system, our judges are now all just puppets carrying out the formality of making it look like we have some justice, when in reality its for sale to the highest bidder. BTW the modern day Fascist is the last person to realize just what they have become. They are just as deep into denial of that sickness as the practicing alcoholic is of theirs. What the heck one more time Monica for President Jim