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To: Yorikke who wrote (158)	9/20/1998 3:33:00 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 276

Crimson flames tied through my ears Rollin' high and mighty traps... Pounced with fire on flaming roads Using ideas as my maps... "We'll meet on edges, soon" said I, Proud 'neath heated brow... Ah, but I was so much older then I'm young-er than that now. Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth, "Rip down all hate," I screamed, Lies that life is black and white Spoke from my skull I dreamed. Romantic facts of musketeers Foundationed deep, somehow, Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Girls' faces formed the forward path From phony jealousy, To memorizing politics Of ancient history. Flung down by corpse evangelist Unthought of, though, somehow, Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. A self-ordained professor's tongue Too serious to fool Spouted out that liberty Is just equality in school. "Equality," I spoke the word As if a wedding vow Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. In a soldier's stance I aimed my hand At the mongrel dogs who teach Fearing not that I'd become my enemy In the instant that I preach. My pathway led by confusion boats Mutiny from stern to bow Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats Too noble to neglect Deceived me into thinking I had something to protect. Good and bad, I defined these terms Quite clear, no doubt, somehow, Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. berggren.starwarsfan.com back pages [corrected for spelling] Not meaning to be a smartass with the Dylan here, mn, quite the contrary, in fact. I think it's bang on topic and he says it better than I ever could. But then, so do you -g- ...... salud ....... marcos

To: Yorikke who wrote (158)	9/20/1998 6:53:00 PM
From: INFO_DART	Respond to of 276

m. n. muench, As usual your post is very interesting and helpful. I'm going to think about what you have said.

To: Yorikke who wrote (158)	9/20/1998 7:02:00 PM
From: Len	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 276

Hi m.n., I like what you have to say. Along those lines, you may enjoy reading a book I found enlightening, called, The TAO of Trading, by Robert Koppel...ISBN 0-7931-2598-7. Hope you enjoy it, in case you haven't already read it. Len

To: Yorikke who wrote (158)	9/25/1998 8:14:00 PM
From: INFO_DART	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 276

It seems to me that in some important way that the "abusive" exercise of freedom of speech on SI may in fact deny others, at least in part, of their freedom to communicate. So, I pose the question, how? What are some of the ways that some try to interfere with the communication of others on SI? By analogy there seems to be two categories. One, is by silencing their voice. What are some of the more common ways and what are some of the more interesting way people do this? Category Two, is by another creating so much noise, one is unlikely to be heard. How is that done? Can anyone post examples of either?