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To: Bill who wrote (3926)9/20/1998 9:44:00 AM
From: lazarre  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Can one not also appreciate irony---the needle on the meter has not quite hit the level of Hypocrisy we are used to by now but its getting there---of most repubs pointing to the newspapers as gospel and instructive?? Gee , I can remember when not too long ago the press was considered, well, let's just say biased and elite....

<<<By Ellen Wulfhorst

NEW YORK, Sept 18 (Reuters) - In growing numbers, newspaper editorials across the country are clamoring for U.S.
President Bill Clinton to resign, yet in polls the American people are saying just the opposite.

The dissonance of those voices has industry experts and insiders contemplating just what leads a community to have one
opinion, and the mouthpiece of the community to have another.

''It's undeniable that there's a disconnect between the media and the public on this issue,'' Michael Zuzel, editor of the
Masthead, the journal of the National Conference of Editorial Writers, and an editorial writer at The Columbian in Vancouver,
Wash., said on Friday.

''There has been since it began,'' he said.

With many weighing in this past week, scores of U.S. newspapers have been calling for Clinton to leave office in the wake of
his affair with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

More than a few have pulled no punches.

''His repeated, reckless deceits have dishonored his presidency beyond repair,'' said the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Florida's Tampa Tribune called the president ''a laughingstock.''

By latest reported accounts, more than 100 of the nation's approximately 1,400 daily newspapers have published editorials
calling for Clinton to resign. Among the nation's largest newspapers, for instance, USA Today has called for the president's
resignation although The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post have not.

Meanwhile, public opinion polls indicate the American people don't favor the president's resignation at all. A recent USA
Today/CNN/Gallup Poll, for example, showed more than two-thirds of those surveyed think Clinton should complete his term
in office.

''Poll after poll has told us the American people don't think this should be the defining factor in assessing the Clinton
presidency, and with increasing vehemence, newspapers are saying they do think at least it's important enough to pursue,''
Zuzel said.

Among editorial writers, he said, ''there's some thought that the American public just hasn't caught up yet, that as the details
sink in, as more people read the (Kenneth) Starr report and the videotape is shown, public opinion will change.''

Industry experts also note that a presidential resignation means quite different things to the media and to the general public. To
the media, such a story is the lifeblood of journalism, while to the public, it's a disturbance that's upsetting yet remote from
everyday life.

Reconciling the jarring difference between the people and the papers means defining the role of a newspaper and whether it
leads or follows, said Aly Colon, an expert in ethics and diversity at the Poynter Institute for Media Studies in St. Petersburg,
Florida.

As a leader, a newspaper tries to bring readers around to its point of view, while as a follower, it reflects the people's mood, he
said.

''Now I have this image of newspaper editors saying, 'Follow me,' and the readers looking in the other direction,'' he said.

In this case, said Robert Giles, head of the Media Studies Center and senior vice president of the Freedom Forum in New
York, the newspapers are clearly, and rightfully, the leaders.

''Newspapers don't write editorials with their finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing,'' he said.

''Their editorial page staffs spend a lot of time reading and discussing the important issues of the day, and that gives a great
deal more weight to what they have to say as opposed to public opinion polling and what's said in a two-minute telephone
interview,'' he said.

Yet given the declining numbers of newspapers and declining circulation among those that have survived, Colon said, the
influence of editorials has waned.

Added to that, he said, are polls showing the American people do not have a particularly high opinion of the media and that
they tap into an array of outlets, not just newspapers, for information.

''The power of the editorial has been weakened by the fact that people are getting their information from many different
places,'' he said.

Nevertheless, people critical to the fate of the president still read newspapers closely, said Giles.

''People in public life continue to depend very heavily on newspapers,'' he said. ''Members of Congress pay a lot of attention
to what local newspapers are saying, as well as the major national dailies.'' >>>>



To: Bill who wrote (3926)9/20/1998 11:25:00 AM
From: Hiram Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Bill, the point really is who cares,I certainly don't,in fact this is it for me here. Enough time is wasted on this crap,no one cares,only the fringe reactionaries on both sides. I have work to do,I have school to do,and the fascination of America with such crap only tells me this society is going downhill. Maybe we should eliminate the constitution totally,and go towards an anarchic state.
Noam Chomsky must have ulcers as big as Pavorotti over this crap,I certainly do. I have had enough of this crap,I have too many things to do,the quest for knowledge is what I seek. I follow Tolstoy and Ghandi,and maybe Emile Durkheim,and Chomsky,this is all bullshit. Life is too short for me to waste with this shit. Did you see the survey today? Only 7% of the country thinks foreign affairs are important. Tell that to me if China devalues,the Hong Kong Peg collapses,the Euro sinks,and the US goes down with the global economy. It has been this way through history,no one cares about anything beyond our borders.
In the poll to be published in Sunday editions of the Chicago Tribune, 66 percent of the respondents said they approved of the job Clinton was doing as president and 29 percent disapproved.

As for punishment, 40 percent said Clinton should be removed from office or resign because of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, while 54 percent said he should stay in office.

Also, 45 percent of those questioned had an unfavorable opinion of Clinton and 44 percent had a favorable opinion.

The poll found that 34 percent of respondents believe that economic growth is the most important presidential responsibility, followed by domestic policy at 25 percent of respondents. Eighteen percent said that moral leadership was the president's first job, and 7 percent cited foreign policy.

The poll of 700 Illinois residents was conducted September 15-17 by Market Shares Corp. of Mt. Prospect, Illinois. A poll of this size has a margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points.

It is really a sad country we live in,I am almost ready to puke.
Hiram