Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3998)	9/20/1998 4:15:00 PM
From: Who, me?	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Michelle, I truly feel sorry for you. If you only knew what you're talking about, I would find it much easier to understand where you're coming from! Allow me to tell you a few reasons why I feel sorry for you. I've been in the business world for close to 40 years. Ran my own small business for a lot of years. I was divorced when my child was very young. Knowing that I had a child to support and eventually put through college, I thought it would be better for me to concentrate on a career, reap the financial rewards, and forego any personal life. After the government continued to pile new regulations to the point that it was almost impossible for a small business to function, I entered another field....a field that had few women....and, like you, put in a lot of long hours, climbed the ladder of success at a time when women were not supposed to do so, and now am close to retirement. Most of the time, someone else was raising my child for me, but I was giving her everything she ever wanted...the best clothing, best schools, best friends, best cars, just not the best MOTHER. I was always working (and paying a lot of taxes I might add). I'm sure you will ask what all this has to do with you. Well, let me tie it all together. I'm ready for retirement. I have grandchildren but they live in another city where I visit maybe once a month. I've sacrificed my personal life for a career. My career is almost over and I'm totally alone. Once a month visits with my daughter and grandchildren leaves a lot of time to fill with "others" but all the "others" are either married or in the same boat I'm in. Now I look back and wonder was it worth it. Was it so important to do something that a bunch of "politically correct" women told me was the right thing to do, just to show myself that I could, or should I have tried to do what was best for my child and be a mother while having an "average" career! At this late stage of the game, there are no second guesses. I've been "single" too many years to change or to be bothered. I read so many of your posts that bash families and it just breaks my heart to see you so blinded by the lies society is feeding you. You're the one that will be the loser in the end. You have my deepest sympathy! It took the Democrats 40 years of control to tear our families apart by confiscating half of the family income for taxes. It will take at least 40 years for the Republicans to put it back together again by reducing taxes to where one parent can stay home to raise their children, if they choose!

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3998)	9/20/1998 4:33:00 PM
From: Who, me?	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<I really dont think theres much grass roots support for this moral despotism propogated by the right wing. >> Michelle, does it not bother you at all that Clinton is using the church to try and lift his image? Is he pandering to the right wing? Appreciative Clinton Back in Church By SONYA ROSS Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Clinton was back in church Sunday, apparently strengthened by the friendly embrace he got from black members of Congress the night before. To show appreciation for that gesture, the president -- before attending church -- stopped at a pier along the Washington waterfront to speak briefly at a fund-raiser for Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J. Payne, wearing a blue captain's hat, greeted Clinton at his limousine, shook his hand and stood with him as he waved to the crowd. The president got enthusiastic cheers there from many of the same people who were in the audience Saturday night when he addressed the Congressional Black Caucus' annual dinner. He told the black caucus he appreciated its support ''from the heart,'' and thanked them ''for standing up for me and understanding the true meaning of repentance and atonement.'' At the dinner he also said he had directed Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo to seek legislation that would require public housing authorities to outline admissions plans aimed at reducing poverty and racial concentration through new tenants. ''We cannot rest while any communities are thoroughly segregated by income or by race,'' he said. The new admission policy for public housing would ''deconcentrate poverty, mix incomes and thereby mix racial balances,'' he said. Sunday, Clinton heaped praise on Payne and then excused himself. ''I have to go pick up the first lady and try to avoid being late for church. I don't need that today,'' Clinton said. His motorcade zipped back to the White House. Hillary Rodham Clinton was waiting at the south driveway when the president arrived, and they made it to Foundry United Methodist Church in time for the unusually crowded 11 a.m. services. It was the first time they've been to Foundry since the Sunday before his Aug. 17 grand jury testimony and public admission to an inappropriate relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky. While the Clintons listened from their usual pew down front, the Rev. J. Philip Wogaman delivered a sermon on ''Zion's Song in Babylon,'' focused on the role of music in the life of a church. Wogaman drew from Matthew 7:1 -- which begins ''Judge not, lest ye be judged'' -- and from Psalm 137, describing the agony of the Hebrew people during the capture of Jerusalem. He spoke of how the process of destroying one thing in civil life inevitably destroys others until ''what is destroyed is the nation.'' ''Do not take the precious things of your faith and put them forth in an environment where they will be treated with contempt and derision,'' Wogaman said. The Clintons appeared upbeat when they left church. Mrs. Clinton chatted with Wogaman and Clinton spoke to an associate minister who had delivered a sermon on science and technology the last time he attended church. Later Sunday, the president and first lady were to travel to New York, where Clinton had an evening meeting with Prime Minister Romano Prodi of Italy. AP-NY-09-20-98 1542EDT

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3998)	9/20/1998 4:35:00 PM
From: tyro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Beware the unctuous Gingrich who glibs with the gallery for applause; there is a world out there, in the alleys of dusty Palestine, in the fetid slums of Soweto, in the hungry, criminal streets of Moscow and Shanghai and Manila and Port-au-Prince and Detroit, that Gingrich has not feeling to know. 'Hypo' means 'below'; 'crite' means 'judgement' (cf. 'dis-cri-mination'; 'cri-sis', 'Sans-cri-t'). House Republican bullies are hypocrites, flying by stealth below the radar of judgement. Mistrust Clinton, too. He did not entertain with blood-vessel-dilating rock 'n roll in the salons of the White House; he never mooned jackass Washington from an alabaster balcony; never set us to listen to brass honey pouring from saxorchid. He never spoke his mind. He is a hypocrite, too.