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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (4317)	9/21/1998 5:21:00 PM
From: dougjn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Actually, Clinton used two definitions of "sexual relations". The one he mostly discussed was the exact wording in the Jones suit. That definition not only didn't include intercourse. It also didn't include oral sex if the one speaking (the deponent) was only on the receiving end. Remarkably enough, that IS a permissible, and even likely, reading of the words in that definition, after the Judge had chopped out the second and third parts of it. The second was the one he suggested Monica Lewinsky might have been using. That's the one that must include sexual intercourse, he said. Apparently that is what some dictionaries say. Even if it sure isn't what our Hollywood and drugstore novels say, etc. The real point is that Clinton made clear he was NOT trying to let the Jones lawyers know everything that was going on. He was trying to keep as much hidden as he possibly could -- and still avoid perjury. So anyone who says that is not what people commonly mean is entirely missing the point. That is not the controlling legal standard. And Clinton was NOT trying to help the Jones lawyers. Who were principally trying to dragnet dirt and leak it to the press, to damage him politically. Doug

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (4317)	9/21/1998 6:44:00 PM
From: cody andre	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Don't blush: it was a rather clinical Q&A session. In Washington, DC, the police (and the law) considers BJs between customers ("johns") and prostitutes (on 14th Street, NW, near the White House) "sex" and one can get busted. Prostitutes spend a couple of days in jail and pay a fine; the "johns" can have their cars impounded, fined and, letters are sent to their homes for spouses. Ask your husband or father where they consider a "head", oral sex. Clinton looked like a child caught with the hand in the cookie jar. I glimpsed the part where he asked permission to go to the bathroom and thank the jury for it. // CA