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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: dd who wrote (6740)9/22/1998 10:05:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
Dish it out and can't take it?

What did I dish out?

Just like a liberal.

I'm a liberal because I don't agree that most Americans who don't want to impeach Clinton are on welfare?

...your boy Clinton...

I specifically said I did not vote for Clinton.

You are so full of bile you can't even focus your eyes on the page.

jbe



To: dd who wrote (6740)9/22/1998 11:19:00 PM
From: j g cordes  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
Someone Tripped Up.. article W.Post.
hang in there everyone, we're investing friends
on SI.. let not let political events spoil things..

As more stuff comes out, the story gets more interesting..

"Shedding New Light on Linda Tripp's Role

By John Mintz and Roberto Suro
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, September 23, 1998; Page A1

In the voluminous report that independent counsel
Kenneth W. Starr submitted to Congress, one
person seemed conspicuously absent - Linda R.
Tripp, whose account of Monica S. Lewinsky's
affair with President Clinton prompted the
investigation in the first place.

But with the release of 3,183 pages of additional
Starr documents this week, new details have
emerged about Tripp and how she betrayed her
onetime friend and acted as a provocateur intent on
ensnaring the president at key moments in the
unfolding drama.

It was Tripp, according to Lewinsky's grand jury
testimony released Monday, who urged her not to
clean the semen-stained blue dress that proved she
had a sexual encounter with Clinton. And it was
Tripp, according to the documents, who urged
Lewinsky not to sign an affidavit denying she had
an affair with Clinton until the president's friends
assisted her in landing a job - advice that would
have set a trip for Clinton had Lewinsky followed
it. There are a number of reasons why Tripp, once
Starr's key witness, has been so eclipsed in his
investigation. Once Lewinsky started cooperating
with Starr in July, Tripp's testimony about what
Lewinsky had told her was not as important. But
an added factor was Starr's own suspicion that
Tripp lied about her handling of the audiotapes she
made of her conversations with Lewinsky. The
independent counsel is investigating whether Tripp
was not telling the truth when she told Starr's
investigators that she had not altered or made any
copies of the dozens of tapes she turned over to
Starr.

Starr's office said in papers made public Monday
that "if Ms. Tripp duplicated any tapes herself or knew of their duplication,
then she has lied under oath before the grand jury and in a deposition. The
OIC continues to investigate this matter. ... For the seven tapes which
contain audible conversations and which exhibit signs of duplication, the
Office of the Independent Counsel cannot exclude the possibility of
tampering at this time."

Tripp's spokesmen have refused all public comment about her role in taping
Lewinsky because of an ongoing investigation by a Maryland prosecutor -
taping people without their consent is illegal under state law. But a source
close to Tripp said yesterday that Starr's office has told her attorneys that
"she is not the target of this portion of their investigation," and added: "At no
time and in no way did Linda Tripp alter, duplicate or otherwise tamper with
any materials" delivered to Starr.

Tripp herself has made no public appearances since July, when after
completing her grand jury testimony she proclaimed from the courthouse
that she is "an average American ... vilified for taking the path of truth."

But Lewinsky left no doubt about who she thinks is the cause of her
troubles. At the end of one of her grand jury appearances last month,
according to testimony released this week, Lewinsky was asked whether
she had anything to add, and she said tearfully: "I'm really sorry for
everything that's happened. And I hate Linda Tripp."

The grand jurors then began comforting her, one saying: "right now you feel
a lot of hate for Linda Tripp, but you need to move on and leave her where
she is because whatever goes around comes around." A second grand juror
added: "it comes around ... And is definitely going to have to give an
account for what she did."

Clinton, too, has seemed fixated on Tripp's role in upending him.

During his grand jury testimony, Clinton repeatedly vented suspicions that
Tripp was responsible for feeding information about Lewinsky to the
lawyers for Paula Jones in her sexual harassment suit against Clinton.

Explaining his surprise when the Jones lawyers began questioning about
Lewinsky in his Jan. 17 deposition, Clinton said, "it was obvious to me by
this point ... that they had, these people had access to a lot of information
from somewhere, and I presume it came from Linda Tripp."

Noting that the Jones lawyers had met with Tripp the night before the
deposition, Clinton said, "now they'd been up all night with Linda Tripp, who
had betrayed her friend, Monica Lewinsky, stabbed her in the back and
given them all this information."

The new information in the Starr documents only reinforce Tripp's
reputation in some quarters as the villain in the Clinton scandal.

"She is the most hated person I've ever seen in my life," said Bruce Fisher,
an Internet entrepreneur who as the administrator of the Linda Tripp Web
site reads the e-mail sent to her. About half her e-mail is favorable, with
comments such as "God love you," Fisher said. But the other half angrily
calls her motives into question.

The new documents also shed new light on Tripp's role in launching Starr's
investigation of Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky.

According to Starr's report to Congress, Tripp in her initial discussions with
his office early in January said that Vernon E. Jordan Jr., a close friend of
Clinton's, was helping Lewinsky find a job at the same time that he was
advising her on her on how to handle a subpoena in the Jones lawsuit.

Starr said in his report that he "recognized parallels" between Jordan's
relationship with Lewinsky and allegations, already under investigation by
Starr, that Jordan had provided economic help for Webster L. Hubbell, a
key figure in the Whitewater scandal, in order to ensure his silence.

According to Lewinsky's testimony, she took the initiative with Clinton last
October to ask the president to secure Jordan's help for her in getting a new
job once it became clear to her that suspicious White House staffers would
never let her work close to the president again. However, Lewinsky said
that the idea of involving Jordan may have begun with Tripp.

Asked by a prosecutor about how she first got the idea of seeking help from
Jordan, Lewinsky told the grand jury, "what I don't remember was if it was
my idea or Linda's idea. And I know that it came up in discussions with her,
I believe, before I discussed it with the president."

After Lewinsky had been subpoenaed in the Jones lawsuit Dec. 19, Tripp
pleaded with Lewinsky not to sign an affidavit denying a sexual relationship
with Clinton until after Jordan had found her employment.

"Monica, promise me you won't sign the affidavit until you get the job,"
Tripp said to Lewinsky, according to Lewinsky's testimony. "Tell Vernon
you won't sign the affidavit until you get the job because if you sign the
affidavit before you get the job, they're never going to give you the job."

That conversation occurred on Jan. 9, according to Lewinsky, who said she
told Tripp she would follow her advice. Unknown to Tripp, Lewinsky, by
that point suspicious of her friend, had already signed an affidavit denying
that she had a sexual relationship with Clinton, and Jordan had arranged for
her to get a job offer to do public relations work for Revlon Inc. at the
cosmetic firm's New York headquarters.

"I was so desperate for her to - I was - for her to not reveal anything about
this relationship that I used anything and anybody that I could think of as
leverage" to keep Tripp quiet, Lewinsky testified.

Lewinsky's willingness to string along her friend became a more grievous
matter four days later. By then Tripp had gone into Starr's office with
allegations that Lewinsky was prepared to lie about her relationship with
Clinton in the Jones lawsuit and that Jordan had tried to win Lewinsky's
silence with offers of a glamorous job. On Jan. 13 Starr's investigators fitted
Tripp with a hidden tape recorder when she met Lewinsky for a drink and
the two discussed their strategies for dealing with the Jones lawsuit.

Lewinsky told the grand jury that during that secretly recorded conversation,
"what I said to Linda was 'Oh, you know, I told - I told Mr. Jordan that I
wasn't going to sign the affidavit until I got the job.' Obviously, which wasn't
true."

In addition Lewinsky testified that "I think I told her that - you know, at
various times the president and Mr. Jordan had told me I had to lie. That
wasn't true."

Two days later, on Jan. 15, Starr went to Attorney General Janet Reno to
ask for permission to open an investigation into allegations that Lewinsky
was prepared to lie to defend the president in the Jones lawsuit and that
Jordan had tried to win her cooperation by getting her a job, according to
Starr's report to Congress.

The key evidence that Starr presented to Reno was the secret tape
recording of Lewinsky's conversation with Tripp on Jan. 13. Hearing
Lewinsky in her own voice falsely asserting that she had told Jordan she
would not sign the affidavit until after he had found her a job proved
powerfully persuasive, according to lawyers familiar with the discussions
between Starr's office and the Justice Department.

The next day Reno agreed to back Starr's request to expand his
three-and-a-half-year-old investigation to include Clinton's relationship with
Lewinsky.