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To: Gerald Walls who wrote (10932)	9/22/1998 11:51:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

<OT> Large quotes of worthless editorials? As opposed to your personal pompous moralizing, in the grand Christian Nation/Moral Majority style? If they violate the public trust then they should be brought down hard and broken. Whatever. Violating the public trust is somewhat nebulous, I'd put the S&L thing somewhat higher on that list than the Clinton/Starr deal. I've heard the "worthless editorial" or equivalent dismissal of contrary evidence plenty of times before, too. People believe what they want to believe, like with the integrity and uniformity of the Windows experience. Then they lecture on what constitutes "substance" versus "all that typing and you've said nothing", as the old master of cheesy high school debate tricks used to say. One more little quote for you. Carville, one of Clinton's closest political associates, says in the book that he met Starr in October 1993, in the USAir executive lounge at Washington National Airport, although at the time he had no idea who Starr was. Carville recalled that a stranger walked up to him and "started spouting an unsolicited and shameful tirade against the president." "Your boy's getting rolled," Carville said the stranger said ominously to him before walking away. That's your impartial arbiter of justice there, before going into his new job with an open mind. He already had his friends working on "the Arkansas project" for him, though, and was advising Paula Jones. Ok, it's Carville, hardly an impartial source, but it sure sounds like Ken Starr to me. Getting rolled usually means being mugged, I think. You want to give us all another lecture on the importance of those 3 perjury convictions/year at the federal level, and how unfair it would be to those guys if Clinton isn't impeached? I wouldn't know, but I'd wager a large proportion of those convictions come in cases where the perp gets off, and the feds get new evidence, but can't retry on the original charges. As for speeding tickets, I guess I'd expect a lame metaphorical analogy in this crowd. Chrysler Car Radio and all that. Like my honest Republican said, "Sometimes you have to exercise prosecutorial discretion." Cheers, Dan.

To: Gerald Walls who wrote (10932)	9/23/1998 12:46:00 AM
From: ed	Respond to of 74651

POLLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who are you going to nominate as the winner of 1998 Nobel Prize in literacy of Greatest Love Story of this century ??????????

To: Gerald Walls who wrote (10932)	9/23/1998 1:30:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

<OT>Pig vs. Prig nytimes.com Hey Gerald, since you liked those other "editorials" that weren't, I thought I'd send you a real one from today's Times op-ed page. See if you recognize anybody here. Looking for a theory to explain a self-stained and humiliated President's illogical hammerlock on his office, the Clinton lynch mob, talking heads and politicians alike, blames the public. The American people, we're repeatedly told, are whores who will not only sell out their principles to the Dow Jones average (never mind its recent decline) but who may have abandoned moral judgments entirely (if we are to believe William Bennett's new screed, "The Death of Outrage"). Last week an exasperated James Dobson, head of the G.O.P.'s powerful family-values auxiliary, Focus on the Family, went so far as to declare "that our greatest problem is not in the Oval Office -- it is with the people of this land." But the people of this land whom he sees as the "problem" are also, as it happens, an American majority that sees people like Mr. Dobson as the problem: preacher-politicians who want to legislate the most intimate acts of human life -- sex and religion. And Kenneth Starr, by his own actions, not those of his political foes, has signaled that he is one of those politicians -- by speaking under Pat Robertson's auspices while serving as Independent Counsel, by dropping all the other Clinton scandals to fixate on Monica, and finally by producing both a report and a grand jury interrogation that chill the rest of us not so much with their salacious detail as with their vision of what America might be like if the Starrs, Robertsons and Dobsons were in power beyond this one investigation. Americans sense that the government prosecutor who uses his office not merely to catalogue repetitive sex acts but to gratuitously determine if (and how) they reached "completion" is an avatar for the political movement that wishes to revive punitive divorce laws, enforce state sodomy statutes (especially against homosexuals), roll back Roe v. Wade and police libraries, TV, movies and the Internet for smut (unless it's state-sanctioned, like the Starr report). The two-thirds of the people in this land who reject such invasive politics, many of them far more honorable than Bill Clinton, would rather have a piggish President they don't admire, and perhaps actively deplore, in the White House than lend any vindication to the crusade of a zealous prig out of "The Crucible." Monicagate will yield more Super Bowl events -- the tainted Linda Tripp tapes, further bimbo eruptions and perhaps even impeachment hearings in which the mob is treated to the spectacle of Congress interrogating Ms. Lewinsky to nail the President on his sworn lies about his contact with her breasts and genitalia. But Mr. Starr was and is Mr. Clinton's best insurance policy. No matter how many doomsdays the media predict, the only way the public is likely to give the President the boot is if the Independent Counsel abdicates first. You wouldn't happen to know any zealous prigs would you Gerald? Cheers, Dan.