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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Johnathan C. Doe who wrote (4948)	9/23/1998 11:13:00 AM
From: j_b	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

<< That is why the Ku Klux Klan, the Militia movement, and Neo Nazi's all take up the religious idealogy of the fundamentalists to justify what they do when it is harmful to others>> I am absolutely amazed that you would say this in a serious discussion. The Christian Identity movement and the Nazi party, as well as other white supremecists use an interpretation of bible that is completely at odds with fundamentalist Christianity. There is absolutely no connection between the cults and political movements you refer to, and "real" Christians. FWIW, I am not a Christian of any sort - never was, never will be. As a matter of fact, I am not religious at all, and have had great problems with overzealous Christians in the past. However, your complete disregard for the truth is abhorrent to me. Not one of the groups you mentioned has ever taken up the ideology of the fundamentalists. They have all created their own version of Christianity, the same way the Muslim terrorists have created their own skewed version of Islam. Muslim fundamentalists are not terrorists, especially since Islam rejects violence as a solution to most problems. Christianity similarly rejects violence and most versions promotes equality. Clinton is a Southern Baptist - they are considered to be fundamentalists - is he also to be associated with the KKK and the other evils you refer to? As to the militia - they are not in any way religious. Some people that are associated by the press with the militia movement consider themselves to be religious, but the movement is entirely political. The justification used is entirely political. Stick to the facts and avoid the emotion-laden BS. There are plenty of valid points to be made on both sides of this issue without using those tactics.

To: Johnathan C. Doe who wrote (4948)	9/23/1998 11:20:00 AM
From: grampa	Respond to of 67261

I don't have the "intelligence" needed to be drawn into further discussion BUT-- Most groups have-good ideas and bad, and are evaluated by individuals having good interpretations and bad. That leads to so many possible interpretations that, for me, the best discussions are long, deep, face to face meetings between "possible" friends. Certainly the groups you mention are ones where you and I almost completely agree. Southern Baptists and Focus on the Family are negative for you, and tho I may not agree with them completely--not negative for me. And I'd be COMPLETELY happy on a hillside listening to the Lord talking about the rights and wrongs of 1998 life in America, where you (and I may be wrong) may decide to be someplace else. So--thanks for your reply, but just include me in the group who loves the Lord, hates thoughts and actions that separate us from Him, and wishes you love and happiness in your life.