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To: Tumbleweed who wrote (461)9/24/1998 8:03:00 PM
From: SOROS  Respond to of 1151
 
Dear Joe,

I have to admit that your position is one of the most popular today. That is one reason you will see the world embrace a one-world religion. The word is ecumenism, and it is the teaching that is most prevalent in all religions today. You see, my friend, this is where you are wrong. Only one "religion" is as dogmatic as you say. That is the fundamental, Bible-believing Christian. Most Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, etc. do NOT believe the Bible is 100% true. They take what they want and discard the rest and excuse this by saying we live in a different time. Nonsense. God's word is the same forever, and if you studied it, you would know that your statement about things always being bad is also missing the point. It is not the "bad" to focus on, but the "true". Are events coming together with 100% accuracy to confirm what the Bible says will happen at the end of the age. It IS happening. You can dismiss it, but please keep your eyes open. When you see the movement to a one-world religion, one-world government, one-world means of exchange, perhaps you will not forget these words.

Watch for Israel to destroy their enemies. If you have the chance (and I'm not sure you will), accept the Truth if you see a world leader emerge from this war. The time is short. Do some study, and don't lightly snub your nose.

I remain,

SOROS



To: Tumbleweed who wrote (461)9/24/1998 8:21:00 PM
From: SOROS  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1151
 
Also, Joe, watch the push to make the world believe in other races on other planets -- it is the only way to cause doubt in the minds of those that do believe the Bible but have no foundation about end-time events.



To: Tumbleweed who wrote (461)9/24/1998 8:34:00 PM
From: Cosmo Kramer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1151
 
If Hitler wasn't the antichrist...then there isn't going to be one!

Who's your vote for the Antichrist:

Tipper Gore
Modonna
Mike Tyson
Monica!
Krammer
George
Jerry
Newman
(Fill in the blank)...............

MC



To: Tumbleweed who wrote (461)9/24/1998 9:02:00 PM
From: SOROS  Respond to of 1151
 
Washington Times - 09/24/98

By Bill Gertz

Vehicle activity photographed recently by a U.S. spy satellite indicates Russia is preparing to set off an underground blast at a
remote Arctic nuclear-testing site, The Washington Times has learned. Test preparations at the Novaya Zemlya Island test site were
detected over the past several weeks by a National Reconnaissance Office satellite, said intelligence officials familiar with a secret
report on the activity. The report was circulated to senior government and military officials last week. "We have observed activity at
the Russian nuclear-test range at Novaya Zemlya suggesting nuclear-related experiments are under way," a U.S. intelligence official
said.

The intelligence officials said the test preparations include vehicle activity near a deep hole at the island site. Trucks carrying filler
material were photographed unloading around the mouth of a shaft. The activity is similar to late preparations for an underground
nuclear blast.

Most underground tests involve putting a nuclear device connected to long cables at the bottom of a deep shaft, then filling the hole
with rock or concrete. The device is detonated and sensors measure the effects. The data is used for developing nuclear warheads
or testing the reliability and safety of existing weapons stockpiles.

The intelligence official said the latest activity spotted at Novaya Zemlya may be related to the July announcement by a Russian
Atomic Energy Ministry official that Moscow would conduct "subcritical" nuclear weapons tests in the next several months.

Subcritical tests are explosions that do not always involve a nuclear blast. The United States, which also conducts such tests,
considers them legal under the pending Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.

A nuclear test would break Moscow's self-imposed testing moratorium that began in 1990 and would contradict Russia's
commitment to the Test Ban Treaty. As a treaty signatory since Sept. 24, 1996, Moscow is expected to refrain from any activities
that would undermine the treaty, even though it has not been formally ratified or formally gone into effect worldwide. Mikhail
Shurgalin, a Russian Embassy spokesman, said he was unaware of the activity on Novaya Zemlya. But he said Moscow is abiding
by its testing moratorium. "The policy is full compliance with the moratorium," he said.

The test preparations have raised new suspicions among some U.S. intelligence officials that the Russians are engaged in a covert
nuclear-testing program. White House, State Department and CIA spokesman had no immediate comment.

Clinton administration officials in the past have sought to play down evidence of Russian nuclear testing because of concerns it
would complicate efforts to win Senate ratification of the Test Ban Treaty. Republican aides have said the underground nuclear
explosions set off by India and Pakistan in May had made it unlikely the treaty would be ratified.

Previous Russian testing incidents also have raised fears among members of Congress that U.S. aid to Russia for disarmament
could be helping Moscow build new nuclear arms. Moscow recently tested a new intercontinental ballistic missile. Rep. C.W. Bill
Young, Florida Republican and chairman of the House Appropriations national security subcommittee, questioned Moscow's testing
activities in 1996. In response to a suspected nuclear blast that year, Mr. Young said, "I would be concerned about what their intent
might be." He said he would oppose using U.S. funds to pay Russia for weapons dismantling if the tests are being used to
modernize or develop new nuclear arms.

The test preparations identified this month are not the first time questions were raised about nuclear weapons-related activities near
Novaya Zemlya. In January 1996, U.S. intelligence agencies recorded what was believed to be a small nuclear test in northern
Novaya Zemlya. William Perry, then the defense secretary, said at the time that government analysts were divided on the issue,
with some convinced a small test was carried out and other saying the evidence was inconclusive.

Then, on Aug. 17, 1997, a suspicious "seismic event" was detected near Novaya Zemlya that led the U.S. government to suspect
Moscow set off a nuclear test. The Pentagon's top nuclear test analyst, Ralph Alewine, said reports indicated a "seismic event with
explosive characteristics" took place. The State Department filed a formal diplomatic note with Moscow seeking an explanation, and
was told the activity detected was an earthquake. The U.S. rejected the explanation. A panel of experts working for CIA Director
George Tenet later concluded the event was either a non-nuclear explosion or a rare underwater earthquake. Nuclear
weapons-related experiments were carried out around the time the event was recorded on seismic monitoring stations, the panel
said. The CIA believes the August 1997 activity could have been subcritical nuclear weapons experiments.

In February, Russia's Interfax news agency reported that seismic-monitoring stations near Novaya Zemlya has detected activity that
could have been a small underground nuclear test. The activity registered a 3 on the Richter earthquake scale, about the same size
as the event detected in August 1997.



To: Tumbleweed who wrote (461)9/24/1998 9:19:00 PM
From: SOROS  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1151
 
PLEASE READ!

It's here! The global apocalypse forecasted only by the "lunatic fringe", by conspiracy mongers and doomsayers of every kind, is
now sweeping the earth as you read this. The official economic prognosticators, who were buoyantly declaring as early as this
summer that there was "no end in sight" to the ideal conditions of sustained growth with low inflation in the United States, are now
beginning to sound like doomsayers themselves, predicting "incalculable human and political consequences" if current trends
continue. The grave implications of a global meltdown have not occurred to many Americans of whom a majority are preoccupied by
their president's sex life which dominates the headlines. The tidal wave looming on the horizon does not concern the revelers on the
beach, but that will not lessen its devastating impact.

That tidal wave has already left a swath of destruction across Asia, Russia, and now Latin America, with the list of casualties seeming to mount weekly. Just last summer the global economy was humming along wonderfully, or so it seemed. The "Asian flu" erupted in Thailand a year ago July as the bhat collapsed against the dollar. An IMF bailout failed to rescue that nation from a depression and the other dominoes fell in rapid succession. Malaysia was next followed by Indonesia, South Korea and Singapore. More IMF bailouts were launched but failed after takeoff. That's $120 billion up in smoke. The so-called "Asian Tigers" of the Nineties have sunk into a vault of foreboding gloom.

In the financial massacre some Asian stock markets suffered losses that were greater than the Wall Street crash of 1929. Almost overnight the Indonesian middle class evaporated, wiping out that country's standard of living gains of the past thirty years. Indonesian police have orders to shoot looters on the spot as famine menaces the new urban poor. An army general has warned of anarchy and collapse unless food can be imported, an unlikely prospect with no money on hand. The conditions in Asia continue to worsen.

Back in the U.S. a bumper harvest is piled wherever space can be found for it. The bottom has fallen out of farm commodity prices,
in some cases paying less than half of what it cost the farmers to produce them. Farmers from eastern Oregon to Minnesota are storing their grain, piling it on the ground for lack of storage space, hoping for better prices -- soon. Meanwhile, the politicians haggle over whose fault it is that so many American farmers are going down the tubes. Some blame the lack of access to foreign markets, while others say that foreign farmers are dumping their products at rock bottom prices in the U.S., undercutting the American farmer. There is also reportedly a global "grain glut" -- a tragic irony with so many people on the brink of famine.

On May 7th Congressman Dent Conrad of North Dakota presented a chart showing farm income to be down from $764 million to $15 million. This 98% decline means that the average farmer in his state is netting $500 a year in the current situation. (EIR News Service, May 22, 1998). Rep. Conrad warns that unless something is done soon, "we are going to see an exodus from agriculture unlike any we've seen in our history." The Clinton administration is proposing a $17 billion farm aid package which is nothing more than an election year "robbing Peter to pay Paul" largess that is contrary to sound economic principles. Like gravity, the laws of economics cannot be cheated.

$2 trillion in household paper wealth disappeared between July 17 and the end of August in the U.S. stock market "correction", newspeak for "collapse". The U.S. trade deficit has sharply increased as markets for American goods dry up. There is now talk of "recession", another newspeak word that describes a condition of suffering experienced by working people. As foreign currencies collapse against the dollar, the U.S. market is flooded with cheap merchandise, forcing American manufacturers to lay off workers. Contrary to what the talking heads are saying, there will be no "island of prosperity" in this global crisis.

Late in August the Russian government went into default as the ruble collapsed, wiping out Russian banks. Millions of workers haven't been paid for months and trade unions are calling for a nationwide strike for October 7th to attempt to force President Boris Yeltsin from office. Strikers will block roads and shut the country down. As a cold, hungry winter stares them in the face, the Russian government broke from its IMF and World Bank handlers and began printing money to pay back wages and stabilize the banks, promising a return to hyper-inflation.

Malaysia has also told the IMF where to get off, clamping down controls on capital flows and breaking from international "free market" disciplines. Signs of global rebellion to IMF dictates have caused international investors to flee emerging markets, the depository of more than half of all foreign investment in 1994. The global panic is now threatening to destroy Latin America which
would unleash a new wave of financial disaster on the world.

Crisis a Prelude to Change

We will spare the reader an in-depth discussion on how political, social and financial crisis is fostered and then used by "the elite"
to usher in change. Many are already familiar with Hegelian Dialectics, the occultic idea that conflict is the engine of change which was the thinking of communists in the 19th century as well as "progressive elites" today. Without attempting to make a case against any group or entity responsible for the current crisis, we may build on the premise that it did not "just happen by itself", the ol' market forces at work scenario. Even if its causes were a combination of factors, both deliberate and unfortunate, we may rest assured that the results will serve as an opportunity to introduce the type of change that benefits the few at the expense of many.
History has demonstrated this again and again.

American financial crises of the past have been wonderful opportunities for the cabal to introduce socialism in this country. The panic of 1908 was useful in passing the Federal Reserve Banking Act, another name for a central bank that Andrew Jackson warned
us about. These so-called "reforms" (a word used by the IMF in its policies toward national economies) also included the passage of
the 16th Amendment and a federal income tax. It is interesting to note how this tax was ostensibly aimed at the wealthiest 1% of
Americans, but ended up enslaving the bottom 90%. This is the modus operandi of wealthy globalists - introduce measures to "reform" capital and help "working people." During a crisis the majority will cry for it. They will not realize the joke is on them.

President Herbert Hoover, a man most Americans associate with the Great Depression, was actually a man of keen insight and ability. He was very familiar with Soviet communism and the fascism that was sweeping Europe. After the stock market crash of 1929, he and the Senate resisted pressure to leave the gold standard and to introduce socialist policies. After three years of stark economic conditions, the country was ready to welcome the joking, laughing, "make you feel good" socialist known as FDR. After losing the election, Hoover encouraged FDR to release a statement that would encourage confidence in the banking system and assure investors he was not going to try anything radical while in office. FDR refused to make any such assurances, which added fuel to the financial panic. By inauguration day the crisis reached its climax.

In his book, The Shattered Dream, historian Gene Smith writes:

All through the afternoon and evening governors across the country ordered the banks closed before the Americans emptied and destroyed them. A Roman holiday, Hoover thought. Five days earlier Adolf Hitler had manufactured the Reichstag fire as an excuse to run amuck, arresting, imprisoning, slaying the Germany that had been. Roosevelt, Hoover thought, had learned from Hitler. The bank closings would be his Reichstag fire. (The Shattered Dream -- Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression by Gene Smith, 1970, William Morrow, New York).

Hoover was correct, except that what followed was a softer socialism known as the New Deal, "friendly" slave labor camps run by the CCC and the WPA, and a massive federal bureaucracy. FDR needed a helpless nation and a compliant Congress to implement this kind of radical change. The banking crisis provoked by his silence helped to bring this about.

In an interesting side note that might illuminate the comparison with our present situation, Gene Smith writes that Stephen S. Wise, a prominent Rabbi of New York's Free Synagogue voiced his concern about FDR in a letter to Professor Felix Frankfurter of Harvard Law School. Wise wrote, "...I know him and I know how utterly untrustworthy he is the moment any problem arises, decisions or tactics touching which may adversely affect his own political fortunes. I have nothing but horror at the thought of what Roosevelt will be for four years at Washington.... There is no basic stuff in the man. There are no deep-seated convictions. He is a tremendously agreeable and attractive person, but there is no bedrock in him. He is all clay and no granite." (ibid.). Sound like a president you know?

In other words, FDR was a man without principles, a perfect president for implementing a socialist agenda. Curtis Dall, husband of FDR's daughter Anna, was a member of the New York Stock Exchange. In 1967 he wrote FDR -- My Exploited Father-in-law where he states, "For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the U.S.A. But he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political 'ammunition' as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the CFR-One-World Money group."

Concerning the manipulation of financial markets from above, Dall writes that the 1929 stock market crash "was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World-Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of the supply of call money in the New York money market...." (Road to Socialism and the New World Order by Dennis Laurence Cuddy, Ph.D.).

The Third Way to the Rescue

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- Menken

As the current financial crisis unfolds, we once again see the proffered deliverance of the global elite, this time packaged as
something called The Third Way, the upgraded New Deal for the 21st century. It's not capitalism, its not communism, they really aren't saying what it is, but it is supposed to be the best of both worlds and deliver us from this terrible crisis. Like FDR, today's "progressives" are saying, "to save capitalism we will have to temper it."

President Clinton participated in a panel on The Third Way on September 21 in New York City. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, his
"New Labour" counterpart and fellow Bilderberger, flew in from London to attend as well, as did the leaders of Italy, Sweden and Bulgaria. The old paradigm of liberal and conservative is giving way to a "third way," they say, a new model of government that is sweeping Europe and is embodied by Bill Clinton's policies.

"Sweeping" is how it's moving as the global financial collapse coupled with a collapse of intellectual capital in national politics has provided a window of opportunity to introduce The Third Way. Some say that it is not clear what The Third Way proposes to do because the goalposts keep getting moved. While this should be enough to concern the serious observer, there has also been a flurry of statements made by Clinton, Blair and several figures in international finance that should help put some meat on the agenda.

On the same day he participated on the panel, Tony Blair appeared at the United Nations and made an unprecedented statement regarding his country's military forces. He said, "I announce today that within six months we will conclude a specific agreement with the UN to ensure that it can make rapid use of what we have to offer when it's needed." In other words, Britain will be the first nation to contribute forces to a standing U.N. army. It is clear that world government and a standing army to back it up are important goals of the "Third Wayers," as is the concept that a nation's wealth and trading privileges are subject to a supranational authority. We need to take a "fresh look at the international financial architecture," Blair added vaguely.

Also participating in the Third Way panel was Robert Hormats, a vice chairman at Goldman, Sachs & Co., and AFL-CIO president John Sweeney. Hormats warned that the U.S. is "probably the biggest threat to prosperity since the oil crisis of the 1970s," and that if the Japanese banking system fell, "it would make the Russian crisis look like a picnic." "We need to show the softer side of capitalism," Hormats urged, recommending large scale "aid" to struggling economies, and massive food and medicine drops to northern Russia. Sweeney said the world "needs new international agencies ... not credit agencies or life rafts" for the rich. International wealth redistribution will be the name of the game here, and just like the income tax, the burden will not fall on the wealthy, international cabal.

One week prior to the Third Way panel, Clinton traveled to New York to give a speech before David Rockefeller and his other friends at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). In that speech he announced that within thirty days the heads of the major central banks would meet to discuss "reforming" the international financial architecture. "Above all, we must accelerate our efforts to reform the international financial system," he said. This proposal is pregnant with possibilities in light of the man making it and the audience receiving it.

"...We need to be honest with Russia and everyone else," Clinton continued. "No nation, rich or poor, democratic or authoritarian,
can escape the fundamental economic imperatives of the global market. No nation can escape its discipline. No nation can avoid its
responsibility to do its part." Evidently, this is what "reform" means. Everyone has to play, and everyone has to pay because the
world bankers will soon have their own standing army to deal with those who won't.

Referring to the New Deal, Clinton ended his speech at the CFR with the closing statement: "In this room, I think it is not too simple
to say we know what to do. The World War II generation did it for us fifty years ago."

Global Crisis Will Fail to Achieve Socialist Dream

As the New Deal brought socialism on the national level during the Great Depression, so do those of The Third Way seek to bring
socialism to the international level. This would be the crowning achievement of their long endeavor -- to unite the world under one
socialist government dominated by a small group of plutocratic elite. As Adolf Hitler used the Reichstag fire and FDR used the banking crisis to usher in their new order, so will those of the Third Way make the most of the global financial crisis to usher in "The
Fourth Reich of the Rich", an appropriate name for an old conspiracy that always shrouds itself in a new wrapper.

No other literary work better describes the glories of the global finance and trading system and those profiting from it than the
eighteenth chapter of the book of Revelation in the Bible. In great detail it describes the valuable merchandise that is traded between
nations, defining at last the "slaves and souls of men" that make up the sum of the cargo. This is the truth of this new order. Men's
bodies and souls are sold like merchandise. Consequently, this false system will fall before achieving its goal. Verse 21 reads:

"And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city
Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

We are happy to be witnesses to the fullfillment of that event.



To: Tumbleweed who wrote (461)9/24/1998 9:21:00 PM
From: SOROS  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1151
 
The sky is falling my friend. Only this time there will be nowhere to hide.

I remain,

SOROS