Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: dougjn who wrote (5316)	9/25/1998 12:39:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Oh puh-leeeze! Can't you do better than that? My position is ludicrous only because you don't support its effect on Bubba's predicament. It is logical and reasoned. BTW, I'm no member of the religious right. I do believe the Constitution demands that we not allow perjurers to occupy the WH. If that is extremism, so be it! JLA

To: dougjn who wrote (5316)	9/25/1998 12:49:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 67261

Clinton asks Dole for help on Hill Howard Baker also possible dealmaker By Albert Eisele President Clinton has asked the man he defeated for the presidency in 1996 to consider representing him in negotiations with Congress in an effort to avert a constitutional crisis by derailing an impeachment inquiry. Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kan.) told The Hill Tuesday that he met with Clinton at the White House on Friday and "that matter came up." hillnews.com

To: dougjn who wrote (5316)	9/25/1998 12:50:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 67261

Congressional offices differ on staffers dating interns By Betsy Rothstein Continued from the front page. When The Hill asked members of both the House and the Senate how they would feel about a staffer dating an intern in their offices, their answers revealed a wide discrepancy in dealing with a very modern problem. If you are Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-S.C.), the rules seem to have changed over the years. The 95-year-old Thurmond, who has been a member of the Senate for 48 years, met his second wife Nancy when she worked as his intern. Still, Thurmond said last week that he does not want the members of his staff dating any of the more than 100 interns who flood his office each summer. "I don't think it would be a good idea," Thurmond said, adding, "I think that they would get special preference" from their superiors. Though the Thurmonds are still married, they decided to live apart in 1990 to make things easier for Thurmond. Nancy lives in Aiken, S.C., the senator's home town, while Thurmond spends most of his time in Washington. Even a senator like Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), who's been burned by personal scandal, said his office has no official policy in regard to staff members dating interns. "Haven't had it, wouldn't expect it, so it hasn't been an issue," Kennedy said. Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas) had a different take on the matter: "I try to draw a distance between what people do inside the office and what they do outside," said Gramm, pointing out that he would be uncomfortable with a superior dating an intern. "We have had three or four young couples over the years," Gramm said. "I believe in love and marriage and I support both." Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who has been a vocal critic of Clinton's relationship with an intern, also has a soft spot when it comes to matters of the heart. "I don't have a problem with young people falling in love," Hatch said. What he would have a problem with, Hatch said, is a married man in his office dating one of his interns. "As long as they abide by the rules, as long as they live within certain moral constraints of anti-sexual harassment, I don't have a problem with two young people getting together," Hatch said. Although the Committee on Standards and Official Conduct and the House Ethics Manual have no official rule preventing interns from dating each other or dating their superiors, one of the few members of Congress with an official policy on staff members dating interns is Rep. Asa Hutchinson (R-Ark.), a member of the House Judiciary Committee. According to Hutchinson's intern policy handbook, which was written before the Clinton scandal, all office interns are "responsible for the cleanliness of their work area," they "are not allowed to produce documents on Asa's letterhead without the approval of the intern coordinator," and "any dating between interns and staff members is strictly prohibited and will result in the termination of employment for both involved parties." Still, even on Capitol Hill, sometimes things are beyond your control. "The flirtation is completely off the wall," said one Republican staff member from a Southern office, referring to the interns. "Every day the guys comment on the girls' clothes, like how short the skirts are and how good they look today." The staffer said superiors dating interns in her office "would be a real problem" and "poorly looked upon by the boss and the chief of staff." Years ago, the staffer said, a staff member met an intern working in the office, but did not date her until she went to work as a staffer for another office. "We called it the internship protection program." Other Hill staffers are also protecting themselves. "We don't date interns," said Julie Pope, press secretary for Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.). hillnews.com

To: dougjn who wrote (5316)	9/25/1998 12:50:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 67261

Report: Tapes show Nixon ordered break-ins cnn.com Meanwhile, an odd historical note I stumbled on last night, while looking for the Nixon impeachment articles that I recalled being voted down. On that one, I found a rather vague ref in a book about 2 additional articles that the House Judiciary Committee voted down, one on tax evasion, one on the secret bombing of Cambodia, but I'd prefer to find a better ref. This story is datelined 10/26/97, which shows how long it's taken for some of the hidden goodies in the Nixon tapes to come out. The break-ins referred to don't include Watergate itself, but they're pretty much equally scummy. In its November 3 issue, Newsweek reports the tapes show Nixon wanted to smear past Democratic presidents and try to find documents that would make President Franklin D. Roosevelt look responsible for the success of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. "We're gonna expose, God, Pearl Harbor," Nixon said. The magazine reports Nixon wanted government files ransacked to find anything that could be leaked to smear Democrats. Nixon was certain there were untold stories about the Bay of Pigs incident and the Kennedy administration's 1962 Cuban missile crisis and brushes with nuclear war over Berlin in 1961. To get those documents, Nixon would have to break into the National Archives. The magazine reports that the tapes show Nixon aide John Ehrlichman proposing to send "the archivist out of town for awhile," then photographing the documents and resealing them. "There are ways to do that?" asked Nixon. "Yes," replied Ehrlichman, "and nobody can tell we've been in there." The tapes were recorded in the White House in June and July of 1971, after the publication of the Pentagon Papers in The New York Times. Nixon wanted to use the media to "destroy" the leaker of the papers, Daniel Ellsberg, a former Defense Department official. Nixon believed that an Ellsberg conspiracy was being run out of the Brookings Institute. "I want a break-in," ordered Nixon on June 30, according to the tapes transcribed by the magazine. "Get it done. ... I want the Brookings safe cleaned out. And have it cleaned out in a way that makes somebody else look bad." Personally, given the "Arkansas Project" / Ken Starr dirt digging expedition that lead to the Paula Jones suit, I'd say the main parallel between Watergate and Bimbogate is that they both had their roots in Republican political dirty tricks and smear campaigns. That's just me, though. As Ronald Reagan said, "Facts are stupid things". Cheers, Dan.