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To: Maxwell who wrote (37539)9/27/1998 4:48:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572561
 
Re: "How do you know that Intel's Mendocino is a HUGE SUCCESS? Do you have any data of how many Mendocino Intel has shipped? Till that number is known I would be hesitate to make a conclusion. AMD is having huge success with K6-2. There is no need to deliver the Sharpy till the market for K6-2 is dried up. As for now AMD is selling everything they can make. "

Maxwell, you post constantly with no data whatsoever to back you up and then you challenge Paul and demand proof while posting more of your unproven claims. What a hypocrite you are.

EP



To: Maxwell who wrote (37539)9/27/1998 4:49:00 PM
From: PFRice  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572561
 
You won't believe this. MSFT screwing over K6-2 users.

There are some bugs in Win95 that affect K6-2s running 350Mhz and higher. If you have the retail version of Win95, you can get a patch for the problem for free. But if you have the OEM version of Win95, you have to pay $35. OMFG.

amd.com

hardware.pairnet.com



To: Maxwell who wrote (37539)9/27/1998 10:02:00 PM
From: Yousef  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572561
 
Maxwell,

Re: "AMD is having huge success with K6-2."

Have you seen the lastest K6-2 350mhz problem, Maxwell ?? ... Sorry to be
the one to break the news to you. <ggg> -->

"The first error is a result of a divide exception in IOS.VXD, the second is
due to a similar error within ESDI_506.PDR or CSIPORT.PDR.

This problem is very intermittent at 350MHz, but occurs more often at higher
speeds. Note that it is necessary to reboot the computer after the error occurs."


Make It So,
Yousef



To: Maxwell who wrote (37539)9/28/1998 12:14:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 1572561
 
Maxwell - Re: "How do you know that Intel's Mendocino is a HUGE SUCCESS? "

Simple.

You and the AMD looney toon crowd were crowing to High Heaven just the other day when AMD had one - JUST ONE - PC company - Compaq - announce a K6-300 MHz notebook computer on the day AMD launched that chip.

As the following article shows, Intel had at least 8 (Eight Count them - COMPAQ, IBM, DELL, HP, Toshiba, Gateway, Packard Bell, iDOT ) PC manufacturers announce Mendocino/Celeron products WITH INTEL's launch of the Mendocino.

In a rough estimate, that would make Intel's Mendocino EIGHT (8) TIMES MORE SUCCESSFUL than the AMD's K6 300 !

And since you considered the single Compaq K6-300 announcement a great success, EIGHT TIMES THAT ENDORSEMENT IS MONUMENTAL - for MENDOCINO !

Pretty simple, isn't it?

Paul

{==============================}

PC makers ready new Celeron lines
By Stephanie Miles
Staff Writer, CNET NEWS.COM
August 21, 1998, 4:25 p.m. PT
URL: news.com

update PC makers are expected to announce their new Celeron and the fastest Pentium II desktop systems yet Monday, timed to arrive with Intel's introduction of the new and improved low-cost processor and its newest Pentium II processor.

Intel's first Celeron processor came under fire because it lacked a critical feature called "secondary cache" memory, which serves as a data reservoir for the processor and boosts performance. But Intel has brought back the cache memory in the newest version, Celeron A, code-named Mendocino, and performance has
subsequently improved, some say rivaling Pentium IIs.

But Celeron A's marked improvements are putting PC makers in a bit of a quandary as they try to figure out how to market Celeron A systems that may rival Pentium II systems
for performance.

"I do think it's an artificial division," said Dataquest analyst Scott Miller. "What the market seems to understand very well is clock speed. Vendors who offer Pentium II systems overlapping in clock speed with Celeron systems will find it more difficult to sell the Pentium II products."

Compaq is expected to announce its Presario 5050 with a 333-MHz Celeron processor. The new system will feature 96MB of memory, an 8GB hard drive, CD-ROM drive and 56-kbps modem, for $1,299, according to
market research firm ARS.

Gateway is expected to use the 333-MHz Celeron chip in its G and GP series systems for consumers and small businesses. Gateway's use of the chip is significant because it was one of the larger manufacturers to forego the first round of Celeron chips.

Dell Computer is expected to offer the 333-MHz Celeron processor in a new Dimension consumer and small business systems and as an upgrade to some existing models in its OptiPlex line of corporate PCs.

Other PC makers such as IBM, Toshiba, Packard-Bell, and Hewlet-Packard are all slated to announce their
Celeron A systems Monday as well, with most configurations coming in under $1,100.

Online PC marketer iDot will being selling Celeron A systems on its Web site on Monday as well. IDot's
333-MHz Celeron A with 64MB of memory, a 6.4GB hard drive, 56-kbps modem and CD-ROM drive will cost
$1,099, according to sources at that company.

These companies are all expected to also announce support for Intel's new 450-MHz Pentium II on Monday as
well.

Compaq will introduce the 450-MHz Presario with 128MB of memory, 12GB hard drive, DVD-ROM drive, and a
56-kbps modem for an expected $2,799, according to ARS.

Hewlett-Packard has already begun shipping its 450-MHz Pavilion consumer PC to retailers. The Pavilion 8395
with 450-MHz Pentium II, 10.2GB hard drive, 56-kbps modem, and DVD-ROM drive is priced at $2,599. iDot is
offering a similar 450-MHz Pentium II system but with CD-ROM instead of DVD drive for $1,799.

IBM will bring out a PC code-named Cobra that will come with 128MB of memory and a 16.8GB hard disk for
about $2,000.

Dell is expected to make announcements across the board regarding the use of the Pentium II 450-MHz chip in
its desktop, workstation and server products. Gateway is expected to use the 450-MHz Pentium II in a variety of
server, workstations and desktop systems, as well.

"It's not easy to have a strong brand at the high-end and the low-end," said Miller, referring to the positioning of
the 450-MHz systems. "I go back and forth on whether I think they can do it successfully."

(Intel is an investor in CNET: The Computer Network.)

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To: Maxwell who wrote (37539)9/28/1998 12:18:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 1572561
 
Maxwell - Re: "August best selling computer was a HP K6-2-300. Second runner up was iMAC. It wasn't the CeleronA."

Oh brilliant conclusion, Maxwell - just brilliant !

When was the Celeron A launched ?

August 24 !

That gave Intel 7 days in August to rack up sales for the Celeron A !

However - Intel did preannounce on Sept. 10 that REVENUES were going to be up 8 or 10% this quarter - so maybe Celeron A sales started kicking in - in early September !

Paul



To: Maxwell who wrote (37539)9/28/1998 1:20:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572561
 
Maxwell - Re: "A few months ago Asus Tek was making all Slot1 MB. Recently they just converted 30% of their line to socket7 since it IS A RUN AWAY SUCCESS. Their P5A socket 7 MB is currently the best selling MB."

Check out ASUS's web site.

They list TWELVE Pentium II boards and only TWO Super 7 boards - both of them listed as NEW.

Interestingly, the two new Socket 7 boards are listed under the PENTIUM Heading ! ASUS has no motherbaord heading for any AMD product !

You are telling me these two BRAND NEW boards are now outselling all the other Pentium II boards?

Sure, Maxwell.

And I'll bet you are reading this reply on your new AMD K-7 Slot A super server machine from Dell Computers!

Paul