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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (1203)	9/27/1998 9:23:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 1542

Well, its God that shows you the truth. It's him, not you! How true. (1 Cor 1:17) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel--not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. (1 Cor 1:18) For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. (1 Cor 1:19) For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." (1 Cor 1:20) Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? (1 Cor 1:21) For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. (1 Cor 1:22) Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, (1 Cor 1:23) but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, (1 Cor 1:24) but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. (1 Cor 1:25) For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. (1 Cor 1:26) Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. (1 Cor 1:27) But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. (1 Cor 1:28) He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are, (1 Cor 1:29) so that no one may boast before him. (1 Cor 1:30) It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. (1 Cor 1:31 ) Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord." (Col 1:9 ) For this reason, since the day we heard about you, we have not stopped praying for you and asking God to fill you with the knowledge of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding. (Col 1:10) And we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and may please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God, (Col 1:11) being strengthened with all power according to his glorious might so that you may have great endurance and patience, and joyfully (Col 1:12) giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light. (Col 1:13) For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, (Col 1:14) in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. (Col 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. (Col 1:16) For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. (Col 1:17) He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. (Col 1:18) And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. (Col 1:19) For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, (Col 1:20) and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. (Col 1:21) Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. (Col 1:22 ) But now He has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation-- (Col 1:23 ) if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant. There is a bottom line to all this 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. 1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. God bless dan

To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (1203)	9/28/1998 1:13:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

God has the power to show the truth, with or without a person being educated. I know many who are literally blown over coming to faith in Christ! God has the power to do anything! God is great! Praise God! The Qur'an's answer to this statement: 5.48 To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a Law and an Open Way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; The point? In Islam we believe that education in absolute terms is and is not relevant to finding the truth. It certainly can tremendously aid a person but it is not required to determine the truth. What is required is what God has given you, as this verse says. So what do you think it's referring to?? The answer? Your mind. God has given you the ability to discern the truth from falsehood. And He will test you on whether you'll use what He has given you or you'll rely on your own desires. Well, its God that shows you the truth. It's him, not you! There's no difference in faith. We believe the same: From Surah 1, the chapter repeated in every single prayer: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; Most Gracious, Most Merciful; Master of the Day of Judgment. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek. Show us the straight path, The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray. You see, Only God can show us the truth. But, we have to seek that truth. So we pray to God that he shows us the straight path. This verse below shows that God will not guide those that are "false and ungrateful." 39.3 Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." Truly Allah will judge between them in that wherein they differ. But Allah guides not such as are false and ungrateful. My personal belief though, you should reach out a little if you have the capability, so he will reach out to you. Amazingly, you've almost quoted a hadith: If you take 1 step towards God, He takes two steps towards you. If you walk towards God, He runs towards you. Peace be unto you, Norris