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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (12896)	9/27/1998 9:55:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

Hard actually to say what happened, as accounts vary widely, but the Gates/Burgoyne story is certainly true. Most I've read indicates that the British surrendered less because they were defeated in a military sense than because they were out of food, low on ammunition, and being continually harassed and sniped at. My family roots are around Saratoga, and some ancestors actually fought there - local lore is obscure and contradictory. Never heard much about Benedict's role; probably, as you suggest, it was erased due to later events. Great line from Shaw's play on the subject ("The Devil's Disciple"): Burgoyne's aide: "But what will histoy say?" Burgoyne: "History, sir, will tell lies, as usual". Steve

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (12896)	9/27/1998 10:11:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 71178

Yo Freddy! The corsage is completed-We had this brilliant idea this year. Both James and CW were taking the same girls as last year so Jane and I decided it would be very romantic if we added to last year's giant mums instead of making new ones. Plus it would save money. Hahahahahaha. We met at our house this year, after the trip to three different craft stores where we spent 40.00 each, plugged in the glueguns, opened the wine. To the original giant white mum I added a sparkly green one and a sparkly black one (there's some arcane symbolism about three mums for seniors). More streamers, more doodads and charms, another 5 pounds of glue. It is enormous!!!!! It's so big I had to reinforce the back and add two more supports to pin it from Nicole's dress. I'm a little worried-she only weighs about 95 pounds. It has little moving eyes and musical instruments and a whole ribbon filled with Christmas bells. It has coded messages from CW, and a giant silver heart. It's-it's -beyond tacky. I am so proud. (For anyone who is wondering what the hell I'm writing about: virtualtexan.com