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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Zoltan! who wrote (7253)	9/28/1998 5:40:00 PM
From: Trippi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 13994

Zoltan! You are partly right -- but for the wrong reasons -- The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals will reinstate the Jones case -- unless it is settled -- but the reason will have little to do with Clinton or Jones -- Judge Wright erred in her dismissal of the case -- using the wrong standard to make her judgement -- this fact alone means the case will be retried -- that said -- Wright's ruling that Monica Lewinsky was not material to the case will stand. The case is bogus and Paula Jones will not win it if it ever sees a court room again. The reason Clinton would want the case settled is that Judge Wright can still hit him with "contempt of court" charges as long as the case is still making its way through the appeals process -- a settled Jones case makes such a charge very unlikely -- That charge would be very damaging in terms of fueling the impeachment process -- Jones wants to settle because any settlement at this point -- would in her opinion -- validate her claim -- even if it came without the apology -- and she and her lawyers badly need the money -- A settlement is in both sides interest at this point -- so its going to happen. As for Larry Klayman and friends -- they can't help themselves -- they see what they believe to be a corrupt President -- that they must decapitate at all costs -- its the "at all costs" part that causes the problem with the American public. The President will serve out his term -- mostly because those that want him gone are holding a pair of tens but are playing like they have five aces. In any event -- can we agree that if Larry has all this great killer stuff that Ken Starr didn't find -- that maybe...just perhaps...Ken Starr is inept -- I mean the Perry Mason thing they did when they had the President on the stand was overpowering I thought -- and so obviously did most Americans. Maybe I should ask Larry about this next time we're on. Trippi

To: Zoltan! who wrote (7253)	9/28/1998 5:41:00 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 13994

Hi Zoltan!; If that supreme court alteration to the sexual harassment laws did lower the bar for the Paula Jones case, so that the harassee would no longer have to show damages to herself, but would only need to show lack of opportunity, then the Lewinsky testimony does become material, I guess. Might somebody have a link to that supreme court ruling? The devil is in the details (no pun). I still suppose that Clinton's perjury is impeachable even if the Paula Jones lawsuit remains dead. It is clear to me that impeachment does not require criminal behavior. Here is a question for the legal eagles: Suppose Andrew Jackson had been impeached by the Senate. Could he have taken the case to the Supreme Court? My guess is no. Impeachment is strictly in the legislative branch's hands. This is one of the reasons it does not require criminal activity. Wow. We have the Libertarian party the side of impeaching him. I alternate between being a member of that org., and being a Republican. But the Libertarians are so bizarre to mainstream (i.e. enslaved) ameriKa, that I doubt their shovel full of dirt will do much to bury Clinton. (They want him impeached because, among other things, he tried to ban assault weapons. In that case, they ought to have suggested the impeachment of about half of congress.) -- Carl