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To: Herm who wrote (8718)10/1/1998 6:17:00 AM
From: Jan Ravi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14162
 
Herm,
I am enjoying the ride down. Now I am looking at the new ones you mentioned. With the market tanking I am sure these stocks will move south soon if not today. Please don't ever stop posting on this thread. Thanks so much!

Jan.



To: Herm who wrote (8718)10/1/1998 7:47:00 PM
From: Herm  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14162
 
W.I.N.S. EARLY BEAR TRAP ALERT FOLLOW-UPs!

The bear traps (shorting stocks) mentioned yesterday did really well
today! PAYX dropped like a Scud missle today with a whoppin -$8.25
points <-16%>. WOW! PAYX is still overpriced at:

NASDAQ: (PAYX : $43 5/16) $7,055 million Market Cap at October 1,
1998 Trades at a 78% Premium PE Multiple of 54.1 X, vs. the 30.4 X
average multiple at which the Business Services SubIndustry is priced.

The RSI dropped below 50 today so you can bet this stock is heading
towards an easy $40.00. What out for that bounce off the lower BB!!
PAYX has sharp teeth!

NEW BEAR TRAP ALERTS -
THERE IS GOLD IN SHORTING GOLD STOCKS!


AU

There is no shortage of gold in the world. In fact, bring your own
truck to Mother Russia and she will load you up! Not to mention the
gold stored away in the Swiss banks from the Holocaust victims. Why
any investor would pay a premium of 85.7 P/E for a 3.9% growth rate
I will never understand..... The whole industry is only a 17.3 P/E.
This is a real dog and a half!

NYSE: (AU : $29 1/8) $1,113 million Market Cap at October 1, 1998
Employs 50,000. Trades at a Premium PE Multiple of 85.7 X, vs. the
17.3 X average multiple at which the Gold & Precious Metals
SubIndustry is priced. Consensus Future 5-yr Growth Rate: 3.9%


askresearch.com

RSI is very high and the upper BB has been tagged. AU does not trade
enough options contracts so consider shorting the stock itself. I
believe AU made a new 52-week high of 29 1/4 today! TIMBER real soon!

NEM

NEM I really like as a bear trap. NEM investors are high on drugs to
be paying a premium of 48.8 P/E for only a 7.5% growth rate when the
whole industry is at a 17.4 P/E. Now hear this!!!!! NEM trades LEAPs
and there are TONS of options traded on this sucker. Check out the
2001 LEAPs for the 10 strike price @ 17. You can enter into a spread
by picking up the 10 JAN01s and CCing the DEC. 27.5s * 3 1/2. That
lowers your cost $10 strike + 17.5 premie = $27.5 - $3.5 = $24 cost.
That's a 20% no brainer!

Now, if you follow W.I.N.S. you could buy the LEAP now and wait to
sell a in the money CC and really grab some premies. Buy PUTs with
the premies and milk NEM sideways! :-)

NYSE: (NEM : $26 3/8) $4,127 million Market Cap at October 1, 1998
Trades at a Premium PE Multiple of 48.8 X, vs. the 17.4 X average
multiple at which the Gold & Precious Metals SubIndustry is priced.
Consensus Future 5-yr Growth Rate: 7.5%

askresearch.com

FON

FON is Sprint which is NOT a gold stock. But, the only sprint I see is
an overpriced stock selling at a premium 41.9 P/E with a growth rate
of 18.72% when the whole industry is at 19.4 P/E. FON does pay a div
and Record Date: 09-SEP-98 Pay Date: 30-SEP-98. Hummm? Just passed!
FON RSI is limp but the price continues to climb. Up today and ready
to tag that upper BB and TIMBER! Just my opinion of course!


NYSE: (FON : $74 1/2) (FONp : $225) (FONpA : $240) $32,244 million
Market Cap at October 1, 1998 Ranks 76th in the Fortune 500 on
Revenue & 70th on Profit. Employs 48,000. Trades at a Premium PE
Multiple of 41.9 X, vs. the 19.4 X average multiple at which the
Telephone SubIndustry is priced. Consensus Future 5-yr Growth Rate:
18.72%


askresearch.com

Finally, you can tell when the CEOs are cashing in and leaving the
crumbs for the investors! FON really is showing their true colors
by the insider trading! Now, who is going to be the last one out of
the exit door?

biz.yahoo.com

That's it! Wishing you all the best of "good buys and W.I.N.S!"



To: Herm who wrote (8718)10/5/1998 7:42:00 PM
From: Herm  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14162
 
Hi Everybody!

I just noticed the SGY has bounced off the upper BB and the RSI is dropping as predicted. More downside is to be expected! SGY is following the normal trading pattern. Keep an eye on the BB and RSI!
Let the trend be your friend!