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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DMaA who wrote (6531)	10/1/1998 2:40:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

But the Serbian thugs had no trouble calling George Bush's bluff when he had much higher international stature, following the gulf war. There was an election coming up, though. You seem to want to play it both ways, use Nacelle's "Wag the Dog" smear and berate Clinton for doing nothing at the same time. How convenient. Clinton did do something about Bosnia, which his predecessor didn't. We'll have to wait a bit on Kosovo. Anyway, what other "thugs around the world" are calling Clinton's bluff?

To: DMaA who wrote (6531)	10/1/1998 4:36:00 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<causes the world to cry wag the dog>> this is the spin that you anti BC people are trying to sell.I'm afraid that it just doesn't fly.BC got a standing ovation in the UN the other day the first time this has happened in his six speeches.There was only one possible reason for that ,a show of support for him in this current crisis. What the world is laughing at is the big production that Congress and the media are making out of this.At least according to a very short but astute IBD story last week complete with quotes from world leaders to that effect. pez

To: DMaA who wrote (6531)	10/1/1998 11:14:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

On Kosovo and Chechnya, and the Double Standard. I think you are all missing what I see as the basic point in the Kosovo situation. Let me repost something I posted several days ago, before the latest brouhaha over civilian massacres in Kosovo. (And let me stress that I am a Democrat.) Do you know what I can't forgive Clinton for? I will tell you, in brief. I was in Chechnya in December, 1994, when the Russian troops entered, and for the next two years I did my share of dodging Russian bombs and bullets. Here was a little territory,which was seeking its independence, with a population originally of about a one million people (it's half that now). The Russians, insisting Chechnya was still an "integral part of Russia," bombed the bejeezus out of it, killing tens of thousands of unarmed civilians. A fine way to treat citizens of your own country! And what does Clinton say, when he comes to Moscow to visit? He compares the Russian-Chechen War to the American Civil War!!! And Yeltsin to Lincoln!!! I couldn't believe my ears.... Note that the Clinton Administration takes a different tack on Kosovo -- even though the Serbs have a better historic claim to Kosovo, which after all WAS the cradle of the Serbian state, than the Russians do to Chechnya, which they conquered and annexed only 150 years ago. Nobody's comparing Milosevich to Lincoln -- oh, no. How many of you knew about the massacres of civilians in Chechnya? The latest massacre of civilians in Kosovo, deplorable as it is, pales in comparison. And of those of you who knew, who demanded that the American government take some sort of stand about it? Why the double standard? I find it outrageous. Why are U.S. officials (and U.S. citizens)now prepared to bomb Serbia over the Albanians of Kosovo, when they were unwilling to say boo to Russia over the Chechens?? Sorry for getting so emotional, but this issue for me comes very close to home... jbe