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To: Skeet Shipman who wrote (30080)10/3/1998 2:21:00 PM
From: Thomas C (Hijacked)  Respond to of 94695
 
Low margin requirements in 29? High margin requirements today? NOT!1.2 Trillion today sounds like pretty big margin to me! lol

tc



To: Skeet Shipman who wrote (30080)10/3/1998 10:41:00 PM
From: Moominoid  Respond to of 94695
 
In 1987 the managing computer deadheads and arbitrage mechanisms ran out of control.

I too doubt we will ever see that kind of one day loss on US markets again. But there is nothing to stop say 3 consecutive days of 500 points losses or something similar.

David



To: Skeet Shipman who wrote (30080)10/4/1998 5:09:00 AM
From: Bull RidaH  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 94695
 
Skeet,

In '29, participants had a measly 10 to 1 leverage availability. Today, we have a market effected by leverage ratios of 20...40...80...even 150 times the participants equity. The keyword is "Derivatives", in the form of call and put options and futures contracts and hedge funds buying both with borrowed $$$.

The big traders who know where the markets should be and will go, they will force the market there using the same leverage (via puts, short calls, and futures contracts). The shorting power of $1,000 in the hands of such a person would require $25,000 in buying power of the average "long-only" investor to offset. Recent mutual fund inflows give a strong hint as to who will win the battle:

amgdata.com

Through the power of derivatives, we climbed to the astronomical level of 9400 Dow, and through derivatives, we will sink to valuations that fit world-wide economic prospects and their impact on corporate earnings expectations.

Regards,

David