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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Zoltan! who wrote (6860)	10/3/1998 2:15:00 PM
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Asked if they talked about anything else, Jordan said, ''Yes, we had a conversation about cigars, I believe.'' Jordan, Lindsey: President's Men WASHINGTON (AP) -- The roles of two Clinton confidants, as described in their grand jury testimony: BRUCE LINDSEY< When prosecutors called Bruce Lindsey before the Lewinsky grand jury in February, he read a typed statement saying he would not answer some questions because they potentially could violate legal privileges. Prosecutors responded simply enough: They asked who wrote the statement, told him to turn it over to them, then asked for the notes he had scribbled in his first few moments before the grand jurors. Lindsey refused on all counts, thus beginning the battle between one of President Clinton's closest friends and a team of Kenneth Starr's lawyers who believe Clinton should be removed from office. During four appearances before the grand jury that stretched into August, Lindsey, the deputy White House counsel, proved a polished but consistently reluctant witness. At his first appearance, on Feb. 18, he said he could not answer questions because they might violate executive privilege, presidential communication privilege and attorney-client privilege. The next day, he took it a step further and repeatedly invoked the privileges. Even when ordered by the courts to respond, Lindsey declined to answer some questions during his most recent grand jury appearance, on Aug. 28. He noted that some of the issues remained under appeal. One bit of testimony gave a glimpse at the battles that carried on behind the closed doors of the grand jury meeting room. Responding to a question, Lindsey said he considered Vernon Jordan, one of Clinton's close friends, a presidential adviser because Jordan frequently gave the president advice. ''So anyone -- any civilian who the president happens to meet, who the president asks for advice, is an adviser of the president?'' asked prosecutor Robert Bittman. ''With respect to presidential issues, yes, sir,'' Lindsey replied. ''How about the weatherman, if he wants to travel?'' interjected prosecutor Jackie M. Bennett Jr. ''I'm not sure, if he was asking the weatherman about what the weather was. I don't believe, Mr. Bennett, that that would be a presidential decision,'' Lindsey replied. --By Glen Johnson. VERNON JORDAN< For presidential friend Vernon Jordan, Monica Lewinsky was ''bordering on becoming a nuisance'' with her persistent calls about whether Jordan had secured her a job in New York. ''I was getting all these calls. This lady wanted a job,'' Jordan told the grand jury. But Jordan made a lot of calls himself. With the Lewinsky affair about to explode in the news media, Jordan was on the telephone 25 times in a nine-hour span last Jan. 19 with Clinton or his aides. He tried six times to reach Ms. Lewinsky and her lawyer. Jordan said he did not recall what he and the president discussed. ''It could have been about any number of things,'' Jordan told the grand jury. ''I have no specific recollection of that conversation at 8:55 on ... Monday morning, the Martin Luther King holiday. I just don't have any idea of what it was about. ... It could have been about the State of the Union. It could have been about Erskine Bowles. It could have been about Monica Lewinsky and the general situation.'' ''Is it fair to say that on the priority of issues that you were dealing with, ... that it was the primary issue you were dealing with?'' Jordan was asked in the grand jury room. ''No, it's not fair to say that it was the primary issue. ... Monica Lewinsky was never sort of a primary issue in my life,'' said Jordan. ''I dealt with it successfully in terms of getting her a job and, secondly, successfully in terms of getting her'' a lawyer who helped her file an affidavit denying she had sexual relations with Clinton. After being alerted to the Lewinsky problem the previous day during lunch with presidential adviser Bruce Lindsey, Jordan said the president should settle Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit and even offered at one point to raise the money himself. Jordan said Clinton did not discuss his relationship with Lewinsky during a meeting at the White House. Asked if they talked about anything else, Jordan said, ''Yes, we had a conversation about cigars, I believe.'' --By Karen Gullo. AP-NY-10-03-98 1200EDT