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To: kash johal who wrote (38080)10/4/1998 9:38:00 PM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 1573092
 
Re: "There has been some talk of AMD manufacturing Alpha's under license from DEC but no deal has been announced and does seem unlikely. "

DEC granted AMD a license as a condition of CPQ's aquisition. The problem has never been getting someone to fab the Alpha, the problem is getting someone to BUY the Alpha.

EP



To: kash johal who wrote (38080)10/5/1998 12:01:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 1573092
 
kash-poor - Compaq isn't waiting for CHEAP AMD K7's - they are cutting prices on Intel Xeon-based Workstations.

By the time the K7 is out, AMD may have to price it at $20 instead of $200.

Paul

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techweb.com

October 05, 1998, Issue: 810
Section: News

Workstation price war coming -- Compaq Expected To
Make 25 Percent Price Cut; Follows HP And Dell
Reductions
Joe Wilcox

Houston -- The highly competitive PC workstation market may be ripe for a
price war.

Compaq Computer Corp. will fire the latest salvo. This week the company is
expected to cut workstation prices by up to 25 percent, with the lowest cost
models starting around $1,800, and unveil a 400MHz Xeon workstation for
$3,600, said company executives.

Pressure in the workstation sector has been mounting for months as Intel Corp.
has slashed processor prices and Dell Computer Corp., Round Rock, Texas, has
reduced workstation prices twice a month, analysts said.

Meanwhile the PC workstation leader, Hewlett-Packard Co., Palo Alto, Calif.,
cut prices on its Kayak workstations about once a month since May.

HP's Kayak XU, for example, with a 333MHz Pentium Inside information
processor, 64 Mbytes of RAM and a 4.5-Gbyte hard drive, sold for $3,556 in
May and $3,189 in July. With a higher-speed 350MHz processor, a similar
configuration sold for $3,087 in September. By comparison, the Dell Precision
WorkStation 410 with 400MHz Pentium II processor and 21-inch monitor sold
last month for $3,617.

Vendors are finding that unlike the Unix space, where graphics capability is the
big differentiator, the NT workstation market is affected by other factors.

Prices are more volatile, and the differences between competing models often
are more confusing, analysts said.

"We definitely have seen a more regular price reduction over time in the
workstation market than in 1997," said Chandler Hall, executive director of
product marketing for Intergraph Computer Systems, Huntsville, Ala. "In 1998,
we've seen more price cuts and more competition. Now we have to meet
everyone's reduction, and we didn't have to do that before."

Jay Moore, analyst for The Aberdeen Group, Boston, said the $3,600 price for
the Compaq SP700 is an attempt to win back workstation market share.

"As Compaq goes to market with a $3,600 price, what we're looking at is
Compaq's attempt to get themselves back in the game," Moore said.

Compaq, based here, dropped to fourth place from second place in workstation
shipments and revenue during the second quarter, said Peter ffoulkes, analyst at
Dataquest, San Jose, Calif.

The company lost momentum as it restructured its product line and as migration
to the next-generation, highly parallel systems architecture delayed Xeon
workstations, he said.

HP and IBM would not comment on whether they would be making workstation
price cuts in the near future. Compaq would not comment on unannounced price
cuts.

"If there's a price war, it's only going to be the two of them [Compaq and Dell],"
said David Witzel, research analyst for D.H. Brown Associates Inc., Port
Chester, N.Y. "I would hope there won't be a price war, because it will shake
out some companies."

Compaq's gambit could be risky, Witzel said.

"If there's going to be a price war, Compaq had better have an ace up its
sleeve," he said.

Compaq's ace may be aggressive pricing on the low end of its workstation line
that opens up the potential for higher-end sales and solutions, analysts said.

Copyright ® 1998 CMP Media Inc.



To: kash johal who wrote (38080)10/5/1998 12:05:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573092
 
kash-poor - Can this be true?

"It's a great preview of what's coming up in the PC processor world, and I think it shows that while no one has succeeded recently in making money competing with Intel, the efforts continue and in fact are accelerating," said Michael Slater, principal analyst at MicroDesign Resources, Sebastopol, Calif., and the forum's program director."

Check it out here: techweb.com

Paul