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To: PROLIFE who wrote (20962)	10/5/1998 12:12:00 AM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

No denomination my limp eared brother. It takes membership rolls to qualify. "They are drunk, but not with wine" Isa 29:9 "Drunk with the wines of her fornication." Rev. 17:2 "Be astonished, o ye Heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate. saith the Lord. For my people have comitted two evils; They have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, that can hold no water." Jer 2:12, 13 If you think sectarian preachers are not drunk with Babylonian brew, ask one to explain Acts 7:48 and 17:22. Who but a drunk could thank they are building a Church out of the competing, sectarian corporations who demand membership lists , water baptism and rites, which are traditions of men and then say they have a Christian Church. Wake up man! How dare you ask me if I believe in the Bible? That kind of deceitful crap will only serve to identify you as another member of the "churchianity group." You my friend, are a self serving, back biting immature person who I do not care to have any conversation with. You and a few others fight back and forth and then rub each others back about what humble, serving Christians you are and I will not take part in your little masquerade. Sorry! Santiago

To: PROLIFE who wrote (20962)	10/5/1998 12:24:00 AM
From: John S.	Respond to of 39621

Hi Dan, Reading between the lines of the letter that Santiago posted I recognize potentially similar conflicts that others have had with the Lords table and water baptism. The author of that letter didn't elaborate on what he disliked about the ordinances. Was it the emphasis that was placed upon them or what was declared as their meaning in the church he attended? The RC institution teaches transubstantiation according to their doctrine, or rather church law, is an essential belief. They must believe that they are consuming the actual body and blood of Christ as the wine and bread are mystically transformed by the priest during the mass and that it is not done as a symbolic ceremony only. Not believing that is heretical for them. What ever happened to "do this in remembrance of me?" Infant baptism is not scriptural either but how many "Christian" churches insist on it. I was sprinkled as an infant when I had no choice in the matter but following my conversion to Christ as an adult I chose to follow His example of baptism after I believed. A friend of mine has complained to me of his churches emphasis on baptism as something that has to be earned. Their pastor informed my friends son that before he could get baptized he wanted to see examples of fruit in his life i.e. taking his bible to school, attending all church functions etc. The boy had made a profession of faith and is saved. Your example of Phillip and the Ethiopian eunuch sure counters that one. People believed first and were baptized right after. Complicating simple issues and wrapping them in traditions tend to get away from the simplicity that is in Christ. Aught not the churches to put as much emphasis on the importance of sharing the gospel? I wish he had elaborated on these topics in the letter to provide more insight as to what had turned him. God bless you this day, John