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To: John O'Neill who wrote (65811)10/5/1998 1:09:00 PM
From: Duker  Respond to of 186894
 
John,

Your days are pretty short: 20 minutes?

Good luck.

--Duke



To: John O'Neill who wrote (65811)10/5/1998 3:38:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
John - Re: "My day trade failed."

Thanks for letting us know.

Please keep us posted.

Paul



To: John O'Neill who wrote (65811)10/5/1998 9:13:00 PM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
RE: Day trade loss

If you are going to take big positions at razor-thin margins like this, you need a cheaper broker.



To: John O'Neill who wrote (65811)10/6/1998 2:15:00 AM
From: Aaron Cooperband  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
John -

Re: "My day trade failed..I covered at 79 3/16, a loss of 3/16 +$40
commision."

I once sat down with a professional day trader and calculated how much he had to make to break even. It came out that he needed to achieve a 25% annual return on investment just to cover his commission and the bid/offer, assuming he traded every day.

There are only 2 ways out of this problem for the day trader:

1) Lower your costs. Either get a cheaper broker, or figure out some way to pay the bid and receive the offer (ie. become a market maker).

2) Trade more intelligently. If you can halve the number of trading days, your costs drop by 1/2 as well. The challenge here is to cut those days that are unprofitable or flat while leaving those that are profitable - easier said than done, of course!

Aaron