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To: wallstreeter who wrote (1305)	10/5/1998 3:23:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1542

Wallstreeter, That is an incredibly naive opinion of love, IMO. The reality is this. People DO fall in and out of love. It happens and it is a reality. Hard work is not a viable option for many people. You can work your butt off, but that isnt necessarily going to make you love someone or recapture the love you once had for someone. However, according to the Church, that doesnt really matter, you must stay in a loveless marriage. Therefore love is an unimportant aspect of marriage according to the church. To say that all marriages can be saved by "toughing it out" and hard work is completely off base and not representative of real life. Mark

To: wallstreeter who wrote (1305)	10/5/1998 4:08:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

<<Why get married to 4 women just get some hired maids who do a little more than housework.>> I think you just hit on one of the very situations that men and women have been faced with in history. Historically the servants of a household were more bound to that household that in modern times. The attraction/risk factor of, "providing a little more than housework" was very compromising for everyone. Islam forbade slavery for the first time in this region of the world, all slaves of people converting to Islam were to be freed. Islam proclaimed equal rights for women for the first time. Now in a nomadic desert culture 1400 years ago, whether it was Muslims or other religions do you think it would have been more considerate to offer single women a venture into the cities alone, out into the desert, concubine status, or marriage into a respectable household. There are many examples in the ancient Islamic literature of multiple marriages and they all point to the benefits of the woman involved. That doesn't apply to you or me or the vast majority (if any) of people on the Earth today, but who is to say the living conditions wont change in the future in such a way that it does apply to people like you and me. I suspect, wallstreeter, that you are compulsing on this issue because it intriques you (like most men) more than because you think it is the crux of the Islamic religion. For Muslims, it is a very peripheral issue.