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To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (7281)	10/5/1998 5:03:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Her obvious contempt for the older segment of our society is disturbing. I am surprised, very surprised that you dont know that there is a fair amt of comtempt on the part of the young vs. the old on this issue of taxation. This is exaggerated in CA because of real estate. Everyone I know feels this way. The elderly lobbies are unreasonable when it comes to bending on SS and Medicare legislation. There are groups such as lead or leave etc that use this taxation inequity as their entire platform.

To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (7281)	10/5/1998 5:05:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Hi Holly! Good to see you are back.

To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (7281)	10/5/1998 5:13:00 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Holly, Quite honestly I don't have a problem with "means" testing the elderly for Social Security and Medicare benefits. Many, many wealthy individuals simply do not partake of those "entitlements" as it is personally a "drop in the bucket" vis a vis their standard of living. I also don't have any problem with taxing real estate according to it's real valuation, with provisions for the "house poor" elderly so that nobody is taxed out of their home or they have a diminished standard of living. I do not view Social Security or Medicare as a real defined benefits plan as the politicians try to portray, but rather a pay as you go welfare entitlement program that needs serious re-evaluation as to the scope of benefits and beneficiaries. bp

To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (7281)	10/5/1998 6:13:00 PM
From: mrknowitall	Respond to of 67261

<<OT>> Holly - I share your view on the contribution some have made to where we are today as a country. I have a number of close friends and a much large number of acquaintances who were military heroes from WWII and Korea - three CMH winners among them. In particular, had some of them not accomplished what they did back then, we wouldn't be having this little chat about that clown in the White House. Mr. K.

To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (7281)	10/5/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: j_b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<Her obvious contempt for the older segment of our society is disturbing>> I have to jump in here. Having followed and participated in much of the discussion surrounding the property values and taxation issues, I don't think Michelle ever dumped on older people. She merely wants them to be subject to the same rules as everyone else - no special benefits. She feels they have benefited unfairly from Proposition 13 and other little perks, but that hardly makes her a hateful person. <<There IS affordable housing in the SF Bay Area>> Where? What do you consider affordable? I, too am in the market for a house in the Bay Area.