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To: Elmer who wrote (38274)	10/6/1998 10:01:00 AM
From: Maxwell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574380

Elmer: <<I wonder about this too, considering that the P6 bus doesn't even come close to saturation with 2-4 processors, what's the use of P2P considering all the added expense?>> It is all marketing. Each of AMD product must have a competitive advantage over Intel for OEMs to adopt. For K6 it was price. For K6-2 it is 3D and price. For K7 it is high data bandwidth, superior FPU and Integer performance and 3D. With such competitive advantage AMD can charge OEMs more. <<Also where is the DRAM to feed this beast at 200mhz? Will AMD go to RDRAM?>> It is dual data rate. The data transfer is in the protocol. It is capable of transfering twice the data per clock cycle. Thus SDRAM PC100 is all it's needed. For Intel slot 1 it is maximum at 64 bit over 100MHz. For slotA it is 128 bit over 100MHz data bus. <<Are there any chipsets to support any alternative?>> Have you ever considered VIAS, ALI, etc.? These guys really love AMD since Intel is locking them out of the PC business. With the socket 7 coming to an end next year these chipset makers need to allied with AMD. It makes good business sense for AMD since they need a second source for chipsets. MB makers see AMD allying with their Taiwaneese brothers is a good thing. They would be happy to manufacture all the MB AMD would need. As you can see the whole industry is backing AMD while Intel is out there screwing all the customers they can so they can squeeze out another cent to satisfy their shareholders. In the long run it is not a good strategy. Maxwell

To: Elmer who wrote (38274)	3/29/2001 9:33:32 AM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 1574380

Elmer, I wonder about this too, considering that the P6 bus doesn't even come close to saturation with 2-4 processors, what's the use of P2P considering all the added expense? Also where is the DRAM to feed this beast at 200mhz? Will AMD go to RDRAM? What else is there? Are there any chipsets to support any alternative? Who will develop them? Inquiring minds want to know. Sounds like PIII will need lots of RDRAM to optimize performance, and AMD desperately needs RDRAM to stay alive. Scumbria