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Pastimes : Dream X..Backup/Multi Boot/Partitions/Drive letters/KOT -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Zeuspaul who wrote (9)10/7/1998 8:58:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11
 
Backup / Multiboot / Partitions / Drive Letters / KOT

#reply-5867450 Howard R. Hansen 2711

>>> Which drive has Win95 and which one Win98? How did you
install Win98?<<<

I first started with one IDE hard drive, the master on the primary
channel, and did a new installation of Window 98. The BIOS
labelled this drive as drive C. I then

#reply-5868297 Sean W. Smith 2712
OS/2 BM can boot an OS on ANY HD in your system.

#reply-5873716 Zeuspaul 2713
I don't know if it was Windows or the BIOS that changed the
active status on my primary partition on drive C and I am not going
to worry about it any more.

>>> Was this a one time occurrence? Do you have to use FDISK
every time you go from disk two to disk one?<<<

To my knowledge the bios boot selection procedure is not a
standard procedure. There may be drawbacks...

#reply-5876729 Howard R. Hansen 2714
>>> Was this a one time occurrence? Do you have to use FDISK
every time you go from disk two to disk one?<<<

I tried the disk 2 disk 1 boot up sequence two times. Both times I
had to use Fdisk to make the primary partition on Disk one active
to enable

#reply-5879467 Sean W. Smith 2715

Yes the using a boot manager is superior in every aspect to the
switching in the BIOS. I think if you tried it you would agree.

#reply-5881175 Clarence Dodge 2716
Concerning KOT.....are there any particular
advantages/disadvantages to having a master and slave on one
channel as opposed to using both channels..one drive each?

#reply-5882939 Zeuspaul 2717
I had a little trouble setting up all of the drives to work in both
operating systems, particularly

#reply-5883050 Zeuspaul 2718
I would make the primary harddrive the master and the KOT drive
the slave on the same channel. The CDROM would then

#reply-5884884 Sean W. Smith 2719
your confusing MS's futile attempt at a bootmanager to a real boot
manager. OS/2 BM will do everything you can do in the BIOS
setup easier.

#reply-5885084 Sean W. Smith 2720
Dear Partition Magic User:

Partition magic 4.0 is finally here. If you upgrade before October
15, you'll get this great software for only $29.95! Buy the

#reply-5891359 Zeuspaul 2722
>>Deskstar 6.4= master and 8.4= slave. Do you think 2gig margin
is enough?<<

That's a good question. Ideally the margin would be more.

I would start with a small 300 MB+/- partition on the primary

#reply-5892088 Clarence Dodge 2723
Maybe I should go with the smaller Maxtor 2880 @ 5.7gb primary
and the Deskstar 8.4 KOT. I really will be only using NT,the

#reply-5893402 Zeuspaul 2724
would consider performance specs for the primary drive and size
for the KOT. I am not up on the latest specs. A 7200 RPM 4GB+

#reply-5894210 Sean W. Smith 2725
or you can use bootmanager and not worry about and have more
flexilibty all at the same time. You ought to read up on it before
you dismiss it.

#reply-5901009 Zeuspaul 2727
I do not think we are talking about the same thing. A boot manager
is resident on the harddrive. If the harddrive fails so does the boot
manager. I

#reply-5902487 Zeuspaul 2731
>>>Is a bootmanager included in WinNT<<<

Yes. Assuming an existing Win95 or DOS installation, the NT
installation will recognize the existing OS and give you the option
to set up multiboot.

#reply-5904503 Dave Hanson 2736
Preliminary Partition Magic 4.0 Report (short) and readme (long)

#reply-5910126 Dave Bisset 2745
FWIW, Seagate 8gig tapestor is being discontinued according to a
link at Microwave's site{multiwave} and they're selling their
inventory for $175. This backup solution is adequate for my needs
and...

#reply-5911059 Dave Bisset 2747
I goofed...it's Multiwave, not Microwave, at
12.13.4.10
I didn't see anything at Seagate's site about...

#reply-5918750 Clarence Dodge
Thanks for the cd-R thread. I was just pondering where I could
some info on them to use as a backup solution for my new
machine.And then you came along right on que...

#reply-5919488 Zeuspaul 2757
I think CDR is a good backup option for permanent file archives. I
have been using it at work for several years without a problem.

#reply-5920543 Clarence Dodge 2758
CD-R could be a possibility for my PC machine. The size is a
problem,...

#Reply-5921641 Zeuspaul 2760
The CD whatever drives are slow compared to CDROM drives.
They can double but it is not my first choice.

#Reply-5922452 Dave Bisset 2761
First, re: partitions, could you explain why it's a good idea to
partition the OS separately? And also possibly partitioning data
and apps

#Reply-5929033 Sean W. Smith 2763
ZP, your absolutely right here. I wasn't considering the primary HD
failure so you do need your BIOS boot ability for those
circumstances. for all other normal circumstances the Boot
manager will suffice and make switching much easier.

#Reply-5929152 Sean W.Smith 2764
MS's boot manager isn't really a boot manager. The Real boot
managers for PC are:

#Reply-5932655 Zeuspaul 2772
That works for me. Use the boot manager to manage the harddrives
and partitions and a KOT drive for backing up the boot manager.
Does the boot manager ....

#Reply-5932687 Clarence Dodge 2773
Is the Yamaha part of your home backup solution?...

#Reply-5933121 Sean W. Smith 2774
OS/2 BM creates a 2M non dos partition for itself. One note for
anyone who is going to try this. If you...

#Reply-5933148 Sean W. Smith 2775
I don't use it for backup. For Data Archival frequently. Mostly for
trading Live Audio CDR's and such. I have about 250 Live Dave
Matthews Band, Phish, Pearl Jam, Zeppelin, etc.... I'm on a couple
of CDR trees and do a fair amount of trading.{eom}

#Reply-5933356 Zeuspaul 2776
Partitions are used out of necessity IMO. For example....

#reply-5934340 Dave Hanson 2779
Got my power quest newsletter today, and noticed that (1) the
partition magic + y2k offer...

#reply-5934525 Dave Hanson 2781
Clarence, PM 4 has a new version of Boot Manager that's
supposed to be much improved. I don't use it, so haven't looked..

#reply- 5936866 Sean W. Smith 2790
The head movement argurment is BS. true for multiple drives but not for partitioning. Data organization is THE KEY for any system....

#reply-5937692 Len 2793
Sean, I have done something that I'd like your take on. On my 8.4GB HD, using Win NT 4.0, I have tried to use the concept of having the pagefile on another drive, by doing...

#reply-5937912 Dave Bisset 2794
he recommends 2-3 gigs for the OS + drivers without explanation....

#reply-5941378 Sean W. Smith 2795
IMNSHO, If you own a computer you should have both Parition Magic and Drive Image.{eom}

#reply-5942709 Sean W. Smith 2796
as far as I know all the heads for the all the platters are attached to the same servo motor so I would venture to say that you haven't accomplished anything. You would have to check the manufacturer of your HD to be sure, but I believe what I say to be true.{eom}

#reply-5942995 Len 2797
You're correct, they are all attached that way. I just thought that by using a different set of heads, it allowed the first set to stay within one narrow range, as opposed to venturing further out to swap with the pagefile.

Maybe you're right, but still am curious.{eom}

#reply-5943054 Clarence Dodge 2798
What about a SCSI primary and an IDE KOT? Would that work or be too convoluted for a Greenhorn?...

#reply-5946614 Dave Hanson 2799
FWIW, I agree with Sean (owning powerquest's DI _and_ PM.) And both were made _noticably_ more valuable in the last month,...

#reply-5947433 Zeuspaul 2801
...With one SCSI harddrive and one IDE harddrive you would make the boot selection in the mobo bios. I would still recommend a SCSI host adapter with boot target ID...