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To: TFF who wrote (5418)10/7/1998 3:36:00 PM
From: steve goldman  Respond to of 12617
 
Bankrupt...havent heard. I called their firm as I knew a person who worked there and there is an answering machine that says, essentially, their OB and to call Bear Stearns. The Bear Stearns phone number has been busy all day.

I figured there must be a lot of clients who cant get through to anyone to do their business. The phone at Bear has been busy all day. If anyone knows any brokers or traders or clients from PT Discounts, please refer them our way.

With 22 years under our belts, we'd be a good place for them.
Regards,
Steve@yamner.com



To: TFF who wrote (5418)10/7/1998 8:41:00 PM
From: Eric P  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12617
 
I have a question that I hope someone can help me with concerning SOES trades. Yes, I know, SOES is not very useful anymore and daytraders are using it less and less. However, there are times when a SOES order seems like the best alternative available.

Recently, I have had a similar problem twice with SOES market orders when trying to close out a position. In both case, I have received a SOES market fill at a price BELOW the inside bid price.

For example, assume a stock is trading at 50 1/2 by 5/8. You place a SOES market order. No immediate fill. The price drops to 7/16 by 1/2. No fill. Price drops to 3/8 by 1/2. You receive a fill now at 50 1/4. Price remains at 3/8 by 1/2 for 15 more seconds, then drops to 50 1/4 by 3/8.

My question: How can you be filled at a price that is worse than the inside bid/ask? I can understand not begin filled at all. But I don't understand getting filled at a price that is worse than the inside bid/ask.

Note: I get PC Quote satellite datafeed which has never had any problems begin delayed. In addition, in these two cases, the stock did not go down to my fill price for an instant, fill me, and then jump back up. Instead, I got filled at a price BEFORE the inside bid/ask reached that price. Am I being screwed?

-Eric