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To: fred whitridge who wrote (2436)	10/7/1998 4:11:00 PM
From: see clearly now	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8393

Dont underestimate my guy at Real Goods..I think there is a problem thats real with the manufacturer you are connected with and they should be notified to make dam sure it is rectified...if not it becomes a problem for ECD who liscensed them...?.."My Guy" is now testing Quest's batteries to see if they are any better? They sincerely want a safer battery...one of the reason they guarantee Nicads for life is so that people will return them to Real Goods for proper recycling..

To: fred whitridge who wrote (2436)	10/7/1998 8:50:00 PM
From: fred whitridge	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8393

Re: Nimh/NiCad/Real Goods. I re-read these various posts and it seems some think that NO ecd liscencee has licked this NiMh problem? Foget harding or any other specific manufacturer for discussion purposes. Bob Stempel stated in a recent analyst call that 600,000,000 consumer NiMh cells had been sold in the last year.(I've heard lower and higher). Surely not all of these people could have been duped into buying a non-performing chemistry? The last number I saw said that 1,200,000,000 NiCads are sold per year. You will find that the changeout is happening big time between NiCad and NiMh. Surely Real Goods can find some manufacturer, to their liking, of our environmentally more friendly chemistry? Or is Real Goods right, and 600mm NiMh new owners per year are wrong? These people are not being forced into a changeover (except the unlucky Swiss). I submit that is great news for the company AND great news for the environment.

To: fred whitridge who wrote (2436)	10/7/1998 8:58:00 PM
From: Michael Latas	Respond to of 8393

Fred, thanks for your excellent posts on this thread. There is a lot of propaganda floating around out there. ALL new technologies have to go through the same trial and error learning and de-bugging curve and ECD with their NiMH batteries is no exception. Everybody is fighting for their turf and Nicad in particular because they are in the sunset phase of their product life curve and NiMH is in the morning phase of their new technology curve, biting into their market. I fully expect to see and hear a lot more propaganda from nicad proponents as we continue to make further inroads into their markets. Again. thanks for your excellent posts. Regards.