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To: BelowTheCrowd who wrote (25084)	10/8/1998 2:17:00 PM
From: Gottfried	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Michael, thanks for the AMD yield and reliability info. Knowing this I'd pay a little more for the other brand of processor. GM

To: BelowTheCrowd who wrote (25084)	10/9/1998 12:52:00 PM
From: Jeff Fox	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Michael, re:AMD K-2 "yield" flaw many of the process problems manifest themselves in the form of intermittent failures This kind of problem is more likely to be a device design flaw rather than anything to do with the process. A common fault is to have a storage bit that gets set and reset at the same moment. The bit gets confused and goes to a one or a zero randomly. The bit works right more often than not when it escapes through the initial checkout procedure. Darn hard to find these at the silicon stage. Jeff

To: BelowTheCrowd who wrote (25084)	10/10/1998 11:48:00 PM
From: Ali Chen	Respond to of 70976

MG, <field failure rates on K6-2 are significantly higher than on other microprocessors.> Can you support this bald statement with any reference, or you are just disclosing your company confidential data? What is the rate of K6 failure on HP best retailed 6330 model? Your better learn how to design and make your own Socket7 boards before blaming one of the components. <AMD has definitely been having yield problems with the K6-2.> Sure, with the 1% yield they increased production by another 30% in this 3Q, with ASP raised from $85 to $100. Must be a lot of silicon in the trash, well above the overall AMD fab capacity:) <Bottom line is that manufacturing was never AMD's strength and it still isn't. That's a killer problem in an increasingly high-volume and lower margin business.> In the days of 486 intel could not get above 100MHz while AMD well managed to make and sell 120, 133, and 150MHz 486-4x processors. Never tell "never", check your facts first. In the future post, I would strongly suggest you to add IMO - "In My Opinion" - to your marketing blurb. Otherwise some people may misunderstand you and think that you are talking facts.