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To: McClam who wrote (11219)10/8/1998 11:18:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
But what has this got to do with the post you're responding to?

Seems Cory feels that anti-trust suits brought against companies by the government are a bad thing. Are you saying you can't make a case to support this position?

Why should he? Cory can feel however he wants. If Cory wants that case made, he should make it himself. Though I've followed the saga closely, and have made my views known, I'm still skeptical enough that anything significant will come out of the DoJ action. But, Microsoft's innovative PR-based "defense" on the matter has been, to use Bill's own pet phrases, "totally random" and "beyond bizarre". Intel, allegedly equally ruthless and monopolistic, except when Andy Grove is caving in to Bill, has a much different approach, which makes a lot more sense to me. How much press has Intel's battle got? How much dirty laundry about Intel has been in the news? Not to mention, Intel has some significant competition these days.

Mostly, I follow the antitrust saga for entertainment, and Bill's provided plenty of that. "Microsoft must be free to innovate", and to tell everybody else exactly what kind innovation is allowed, and what isn't, from Intel on down. Microsoft is just defending "the integrity and uniformity of the Windows 95 experience", which I unfortunately have had extensive experience with. Then, we have Bill's revisionist history "I was on top of the Internet all along" line. Those are just a few of the high points, of course.

The other thing I follow is the hearts and minds front. Microsoft still has lots of fans among the hard nosed investors who know the value of a good monopoly when they see one. Understandably so, zero production costs, near infinite economies of scale, and cheap, commodity hardware with cutthroat competition in all components, all look good for Microsoft. But, PR-wise, I don't know if the wiz-kid Bill image will ever be the same. Or maybe if the premature senility deposition tapes are made public, like a naive reading of the law would require, his testimony will win him sympathy. We'll see.

Cheers, Dan.



To: McClam who wrote (11219)10/9/1998 8:42:00 AM
From: ToySoldier  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
McClam

Is everything black and white to you? Seems Cory feels that anti-trust suits brought against companies by the government are a bad thing."

Exactly who is calling things black or white? I'm not the one that gets on my petestal and proclaims that the evil US Government is once again sticking its nose into the private affairs of the business community. People like Cory and so many other Pro-MSFT lurkers here have this Cut-and-Paste right-out-of-the-songbook argument that the government regulations are wrong and quit picking on poor old MSFT.

I have supported my reasons why the Anti-trust regulations are required. If Cory has a position to support - then lets hear it. Until then, I will slam any poster that blindly throws out the typical MSFT Lemming defensive statements like the ones Cory has posted.

Im saying I cant make a case to support his position! The Anti-Turst laws serve a definite purpose. If anything, I feel that the laws are not strong enough and not as well defined as they should be. They should be more clear so as to exactly spell out what qualifies a company as having a monopoly and the illegal practices that are not allowed so that the MSFT's of the world cannot use 10's and likely 100's of millions of dollars in lawyers to skirt the meanings of the law.

McClam, if Cory doesnt have a case to support behind his rhetoric then why dont you try to support his argument that anti-trust laws are useless? I would LOVE to hear it.

Toy



To: McClam who wrote (11219)10/9/1998 8:57:00 AM
From: ToySoldier  Respond to of 74651
 
Hmmm - Taking it to the Lion's Den....

Novell Invited To Crash Microsoft
Conference


By Stuart Glascock
Redmond, Wash.
2:01 PM EDT Thurs., Oct. 08, 1998

crn.com

Now, in the midst of this giant battle for the enterprise, Novell is
showing up with full-scale product demonstrations at a booth on the
exhibit floor at Microsoft's Professional Developers Conference in
Denver next week.

The real surprise is what Novell is showing at Microsoft's premiere
show for developers. The Provo, Utah-based competitor to
Microsoft is displaying Novell Directory Services, a key area where
Microsoft's forthcoming Windows NT 5.0 has been lacking.


Toy