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To: Kaye Thomas who wrote (512)10/21/1998 5:11:00 PM
From: softcash  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1383
 
Here are 2 more complicated wash sale examples, do you know how?

Example 1
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Buy 3000 stock x at 10 May 1
Sell 1000 stock x at 8 May 15
Sell 2000 stock x at 11 May 31

What happens with the trade that was made on May 15th?
Can these losses be applied to the gains made from the May
31st sale?

Is this really a net gain/loss of $0

Example 2
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Buy 3000 stock y at 10 June 1
Sell 1000 stock y at 12 June 15
sell 2000 stock y at 9 June 30

Can the gains made from June 15 sale be applied to the transaction
on June 30th?

Is this really a net gain/loss of 0?

Notice in both of these situations, one is left with the same
about of cash, except for commissions. For this purpose, lets
assume commissions are free - 0.

Thanx in advance!!



To: Kaye Thomas who wrote (512)10/24/1998 2:58:00 PM
From: softcash  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1383
 
Is October really a tax selling month?

For most the tax year runs from Jan to Dec. It doesn't
make sense to sell in early to mid October when you have
losses. Historically October is a bad time for stocks.
But if you have noticed, stocks rebound significantly from
October and are much higher by December.

December is the tax loss month, which sets up the infamous
January effect.

BTW/ October is NOT at the beginning of a quarterly boundary! Investment firms if they were going to sell for tax losses would
do it on a quarterly basis. If their first quarter BEGINS on October, then most likely they would not sell in October. If their last quarter of the year is September, then most likely they WOULD sell in September. But if their last quarter is December, then they would probably sell their losers in December.

In otherwords, it seems weird that a great many of institutions would
have their end of the tax year as October 31. October 31 is
NOT a quarterly boundary. March, June, September, and
December are quarterly boundaries!