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To: Grainne who wrote (25419)	10/11/1998 3:10:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Hi Christy! >>Duncan, can you believe it? The earth really IS warming! Forget about all that confusing satellite data, and look at the results these scientists got when they drilled a bunch of holes. Curiously, or maybe not so curiously in my opinion, the warming seems to correlate to the Industrial Revolution: Few contend that the Earth isn't warming - most just agree that man has little to do with what is a natural cycle. The "global warming crisis" is the product of power-mad central planners and politicians. Meanwhile, John Carlisle, the director of environmental policy at the National Center for Public Policy Research, recently published a paper in which he concluded that the 1.5-degree Fahrenheit temperature rise over the past 150 years that some blame on global warming is actually as natural as day following night. He points out that over the past 10,000 years, the earth has been in a general warming trend, called the Holocene, that encompasses seven major warming and cooling trends, each lasting between 650 and 3000 years. In the process, the planet's average global temperature has fluctuated between 57 and 62 degrees. The most recent cooling period occurred between 1650 and 1850, when the average temperature dropped to 57 degrees. During this two-century-long cold snap, know as the Little Ice Age, the Thames River froze in London, glaciers crushed long-established villages in Switzerland and Scandinavia, and growing seasons were painfully abbreviated. This frosty spell ended around 1850, when the global thermometer started rising again. Strangely enough, this is the year used as the baseline from which the 1.5 degrees of global warming is measured. Dr. Hugh Ellsaesser, a climatologist at the Lawrence Livermore National Lab, sees the current temperature rise as nothing more than a continuation of the earth's natural climate cycle. Furthermore, he expects the world to get another 1.8 degrees hotter over the next few centuries before the cycle starts downward again. Before you dismiss Carlisle and Ellsaesser as crackpots, you should know that many scientists share their doubts about man-made global warming. Some 2300 climatologists, meteorologists, geophysicists, and environmental scientists signed a petition opposing the Kyoto global-warming agreement, along with thousands of other scientists and engineers. Their names and titles, all 16,400 of them, can be found at oism.org; caranddriver.com

To: Grainne who wrote (25419)	10/11/1998 3:19:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 108807

Letter from Frederick Seitz Research Review of Global Warming Evidence Below is an eight page review of information on the subject of "global warming," and a petition in the form of a reply card. Please consider these materials carefully. The United States is very close to adopting an international agreement that would ration the use of energy and of technologies that depend upon coal, oil, and natural gas and some other organic compounds. This treaty is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful. To the contrary, there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful. The proposed agreement would have very negative effects upon the technology of nations throughout the world, especially those that are currently attempting to lift from poverty and provide opportunities to the over 4 billion people in technologically underdeveloped countries. It is especially important for America to hear from its citizens who have the training necessary to evaluate the relevant data and offer sound advice. We urge you to sign and return the petition card. If you would like more cards for use by your colleagues, these will be sent. Frederick Seitz Past President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A. President Emeritus, Rockefeller University ABSTRACT A review of the research literature concerning the environmental consequences of increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide leads to the conclusion that increases during the 20th Century have produced no deleterious effects upon global weather, climate, or temperature. Increased carbon dioxide has, however, markedly increased plant growth rates. Predictions of harmful climatic effects due to future increases in minor greenhouse gases like CO2 are in error and do not conform to current experimental knowledge. Summary World leaders gathered in Kyoto, Japan, in December 1997 to consider a world treaty restrictingemissions of ''greenhouse gases,'' chiefly carbon dioxide (CO2), that are thought to cause ''global warming'' severe increases in Earth's atmospheric and surface temperatures, with disastrous environmental consequences. Predictions of global warming are based on computer climate modeling, a branch of science still in its infancy. The empirical evidence actual measurements of Earth's temperature shows no man-made warming trend. Indeed, over the past two decades, when CO2 levels have been at their highest, global average temperatures have actually cooled slightly. To be sure, CO2 levels have increased substantially since the Industrial Revolution, and are expected to continue doing so. It is reasonable to believe that humans have been responsible for much of this increase. But the effect on the environment is likely to be benign. Greenhouse gases cause plant life, and the animal life that depends upon it, to thrive. What mankind is doing is liberating carbon from beneath the Earth's surface and putting it into the atmosphere, where it is available for conversion into living organisms. oism.org

To: Grainne who wrote (25419)	10/11/1998 9:02:00 PM
From: James R. Barrett	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>>"The earth really IS warming! Forget about all that confusing satellite data, and look at the results these scientists got when they drilled a bunch of holes. Curiously, or maybe not so curiously in my opinion, the warming seems to correlate to the Industrial Revolution:"<< Sorry Christine, your timing is off by a few hundred years. Global warming started in the Middle Ages at the height of witch burning season. Please do not twist historical facts to suit your personal wishes. If these women had not become witches we would probably be wearing overcoats in July. Jim