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To: Sean W. Smith who wrote (2850)	10/11/1998 3:55:00 PM
From: Clarence Dodge	Respond to of 14778

Sean Its clear there is some confusion as to what I do for backups and why I do it. You keep confusing the backup and KOT terms. ZP was responding to my post where I blanketly mentioned all these strategies, (musical copies, backing up, KOT, even cd-rom substitute) I also said your use of a Jaz as an alternative to second harddrive was of interest to me. I think this confusion is arising from my mixed subject post, and I apologize for that. I will make ever effort in the future to post in a more specific manner. BTW I take your advisements about removeable rotational backup media very seriously and have every intention to include such a solution in this new machine as I also have being doing on my current machine. My use of KOT as a fast disaster recovery strategy for a trading machine will be in addition to a removable backup media. I'm just now trying to decide what that media could be aside from tape. Although after probing for alternatives to tape for a while, I don't there is, yet, anything as suitable. So I will be installing some tape storage device internally and in addition to the quick KOT recovery drive. Sorry for the confusion here Sean. Clarence

To: Sean W. Smith who wrote (2850)	10/11/1998 4:56:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

Jaz Disk is very fast compared to Tape, CDR, MO, Zip, or anything else except another hard disk Sorry about the confusion. I was trying to indicate CD RW would be very slow as a backup media for a complete harddrive. True, depending on media type. What does this have to do with backup/KOT? Clarence was proposing using only CD RW as a catch all. I think it has a lot of limitations. can you say manual process?? My daily backups happen 7 days a week without user intervention period. We have some disagreement here. I think it is a matter of personal preference. For example I make stock entries in a spread sheet. Immediately after the entries I do a manual backup of the file. In my case an automated process would not be any faster. Copying an individual file or directory where I keep my important files is a very simple matter. My preference for this type of backup media is a removable magnetic disc media such as zip, jaz, Syquest, LS120, floppy etc. I'm confused, what does this have to do with backup/KOT? Nothing. I think there are better media choices for the selected file backups than CD RW. I'll skip the rest of the post. Its clear there is some confusion as to what I do for backups and why I do it. You keep confusing the backup and KOT terms. I think your misleading the readers into a false sense of security with KOT. As you have said. KOT is not a backup. Its disaster recovery. 1 lightning strike, fire, etc and KOT is dust. A Backup solution is essential to backup data. If a backup solution doesn't incoporate, removable media, automation, no swapping, cataloging, CDRW may be a viable solution. The premise of my post was one starts with a harddrive and a tape backup solution. I was not trying to characterize your entire backup strategy as tape. I recalled that you had mentioned tape as a viable backup solution so I was giving you credit for tape. I think tape is the best of the removable strategies as it is the only one that can backup a large harddrive without spanning media. Perhaps I was not clear. I tried to indicate that given one harddrive and a tape backup solution...first Drive Image and then KOT are worthy of consideration. I agree that the KOT concept DOES NOT stand alone as a backup solution. It can only be used in conjunction with a REMOVABLE backup solution. Zeuspaul