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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: j g cordes who wrote (8135)10/11/1998 3:24:00 PM
From: Trippi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
Zoltan! You continue to use the rule of law as your argument against us non-intelligent liberals. Many of us believe that if this trial were held in a court of law -- the President would likely be found guilty. The fact is that not all impeachable offenses are crimes and not all crimes rise to a level of an impeachable offense. The framer's of the constitution placed impeachment in the House of Representatives and the Final Trial in the US Senate to make it both a legal and political decision. They wanted to make it difficult for a majority party to remove an elected President from the minority party in the face of countervailing public forces. I use this metaphor on the air -- If the President stood accused of stealing a stick of gum -- If indeed we had video from the 7-11 of the president indeed stealing the stick of gum -- the President would clearly have been guilty of breaking the law. The question is would/should Congress and the Senate find such an offense impeachable?

If the current circumstances were actually at trial -- and they should be upon the President's leaving of office (If he isn't impeached) he could well be found guilty of breaking the law.
That does not mean that in a Senate Trial he would be impeached.

Going back to the stick of gum -- If the Senate impeached a sitting President over stealing a stick of gum and then lying to the American people about it -- how ever high minded the debate was -- if the American people felt that the President had been impeached over something they viewed as unimportant or trivial -- the House and the Senate would pay a price in the next election.

You and your Representatives in Washington feel this President must go -- A majority of the American people feel otherwise. The rule of law can be applied appropriately in a court trial -- Or with a finding by Congress that the President should be punished -- but that punishment does not rise to the level of Impeachment. Impeachment will be a political not legal process -- we know what you want -- now the only question is do you have the votes.
The rule of law won't have a lot to do with getting the votes -- but its a nice argument.

Trippi