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To: JHP who wrote (33819)10/12/1998 3:51:00 PM
From: HB  Respond to of 132070
 
It's a bit hard to figure out what's going on with the
3 classes of stock, but that figure looks roughly right to
me, for the class C nonvoting stock (I get $94/sh from the
August 10q, by assuming the (Income:eps) ratio for these share
should be the same as the (cash:cash per share) ratio.)

I don't know jack about analyzing a financial services company,
but did you notice under "liabilities", $1.2 billion of
notes payable within a year? Maybe Mike can enlighten us, but
that makes the $350M cash position look a tad less attractive to me.
This thing looks too complicated to invest in on an off-the-cuff
reading of some SEC reports using some general notion of value,
unless you are experienced with
financial accounting for this type of company.

The 0.63% interest rate on interest-bearing assets doesn't look
too hot to me, either, even if it's a 6 months rate (I'm not
sure which).

I wouldn't think agricultural mortgages would be a real good
thing to be holding going into a worldwide recession (if we
are), and the recent slide may reflect the market's agreement.

Recall this, along with some brokerages, was one of Bonnie Bear's
picks when she abandoned BEARX awhile back (before the top).
Hope she was nimble & got out (she did seem nimble).

I like to look out for value, but having kicked a tire, I'll
look elsewhere (unless MB contradicts, maybe. Naaah, even then.)

Cheers,

HB



To: JHP who wrote (33819)10/12/1998 7:58:00 PM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 132070
 
Yahoo's data is worth what you pay for it. Did you read the piece from Grant's Interest Rate Observer that I posted on the FAMCK thread? This stock is puffed-up hype, BK fodder.

Tom



To: JHP who wrote (33819)10/12/1998 11:11:00 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Respond to of 132070
 
John, Having seen Fannie Mae fall 85% during the 1970s, I don't have much faith in these federal middle men when interest rates are at an all time low. They all say that rates don't matter, activity matters. But rates determine activity. So, I wouldn't buy it. The cash will soon be lent to insolvent farmers. That's not a bargain.

MB