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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (9061)	10/12/1998 3:31:00 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 67261

I wish it were possible to agree more than to totally agree. I can't agree more.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (9061)	10/12/1998 3:45:00 PM
From: j_b	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

<<And I believe that these sorts of people tend to be attracted to one another. SO to claim that some guy is abusive in this manner and all the women involved are merely victims is a bit one-sided.>> I'd like to set up a scenario that epitomizes the way I see this type of situation. An unscrupulous art dealer has a forged masterpiece. He befriends a wannabe art collector and schmoozes him for a couple of months. As a favor to the collector (because the dealer just likes him so much), the dealer offers to sell the collector this masterpiece for a third the market value of the original. Of course, he doesn't tell the collector it's a fake, and he let's the collector think it's the original. The collector checks the market value of the masterpiece, and realizes he would be getting a great deal. He doesn't tell the dealer that the price is obviously much too low. After all, the collector is greedy, too, he just doesn't know enough to get the piece authenticated or assessed before paying large sums of money for it. After the sale, the collector hangs the picture proudly over the mantlepiece. One day another collector sees it, and let's him know that the original is actually in a museum in France. The defrauded collector tries to get the dealer arrested, but the dealer, rightfully, claims that he never said it was THE original, only that it was AN original, and the collector got what he paid for, even though he paid more than a copy would have been worth. Is there a victim here? The collector was fleeced. He trusted the dealer. Of course, it was his own greed, and his lack of experience that stopped him from questioning the dealer or getting an appraisal, but he was still fleeced. Two greedy people attracted to each other? Yes, but he was still defrauded. Merely a victim? No but he was still robbed. Clinton was in complete control of the relationship from the start. He could have had Monica barred from the Oval Office complex or made sure she didn't get a permanent job with the White House or any other government agency. He had most likely been through this kind of situation before, and obviously knew what to expect and how to deal with it. Regardless of Monica's motives, she was a relative innocent that was had by a very shrewd, experienced powerful man that apparently wanted nothing from her other than servicing, although it appears he led her to believe there was more to the relationship (the phone calls, the presents, the trips, job search, etc.). IMHO, that was abusive.