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To: Robert Douglas who wrote (890)10/13/1998 4:12:00 PM
From: Chip McVickar  Respond to of 3536
 
Robert,

WSJournal also carries article on 2 more hedge funds in trouble:
Ellington Managemnet selling big chunks of its portfolio....
Micheal Vranos

Eagle Capital Management -- forced to liquidate its holdings because
of capital calls from Smith Barney and other lenders.

Also article on Endowment Funds of major universities are getting
hammered -- Harvard, Brown -- and others who have signed up with one
the many profesional packages available to universities who wished to
participate in the latest fad for endowment investing.
Harvard's 13 billion was off 1.3billion about 10%

Sorry, haven't read the Forbes article you mention.
Chip



To: Robert Douglas who wrote (890)10/14/1998 10:32:00 AM
From: Henry Volquardsen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3536
 
Robert,

My reading of that was not so much that McDonough was duped as the Meriwether et al were playing at brinksmanship. At that stage it was still in Meriwether's hands to decide what to do, emphasis on that stage. In the morning when they have the Buffet/AIG/Goldman offer on the table that would leave them with 5% they don't have a firm offer of any sort from the banks. So they still have a risk that the banks just force liquidation in which LTCM winds up with nothing. So their alternative to the 5% offer would lead to either nothing or could they work out a better deal with the banks. Now Meriwether and company recognizing the banks for the craven lot they were decides to risk losing everything in exchange for getting a better deal from the banks. At that point Buffet/AIG/Goldman withdraw their offer. Then Meriwether and Co try to get a better deal out of the banks. In retrospect it appears that they made the right choice. They probably recognized the banks were even more worried than they were. There is an old saying in banking 'If you a bank a million dollars and can't pay you have a problem, if you owe them a billion dollars and can't pay they have a problem'. The folks at LTCM knew better than anyone that the banks had a very big problem and played it for all it was worth, imo.

Henry



To: Robert Douglas who wrote (890)10/15/1998 7:43:00 PM
From: Frodo Baxter  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3536
 
Didn't I tell Uncle Al to whack interest rates 50 basis now, 50 basis later a few weeks back?

Of course, the perverseness of the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately crowd on Wall Street is such that they probably expect another quarter off at the next meeting...