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To: Maxwell who wrote (39237)	10/13/1998 10:56:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577842

Re: "If all you can say is that "they don't exist" then you must be impressed. I expect to see some good technical discussion from you." "They don't exist" was just one of many things I said. You didn't respond to any of them. I conclude they don't exist because AMD couldn't present one. If they do exist then AMD doesn't have enough confidence in them that they would be willing to show one running in public. That says alot. Doing a comdex demo to a select group means they don't want any more than a small group to see it crash. Intel did their 800mhz demo in public. 128K of L1 and no L2 says alot too. Intel is already manufacturing CPUs with ~150 Million transistors. AMD wouldn't commit any transistors to L2 or any more than 128K to L1. That tells me that AMD doesn't want to risk yield problems. No surprise there. Intel doesn't seem to have those worries. No surprise there either. With the L2 onboard, Intel can go 256 bits wide, something AMD won't do because of pin count with offchip L2. That gives Intel a 2-4x bandwidth advantage, something you haven't factored in to your projections of Xeon performance as speed scales. 500mhz is 300 mhz slower than Intel has already demoed. That's 60% slower and AMD hasn't demoed anything yet. Show us some silicon. We've only seen the foils and the hype. EP