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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Don Pueblo who wrote (8239)10/14/1998 8:47:00 PM
From: George Coyne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
TLC, I'm glad you came out of your shell. Well spoken!

G. W.



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (8239)10/15/1998 1:01:00 AM
From: dfloydr  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
<< I don't think Bill is capable of coming clean, because I think he has forgotten what the difference is between right and wrong>>

He may still know and just be excruciatingly careful with his words.
Look at what he said to that gathering of ministers which they took to be a confession ...

He said - more or less:

"I do not think there is a nice way to say I have sinned".

That is not the same as saying: "I have sinned".

What he said is that there may be no nice way to say that phrase.

Ever the weasel with words! And all those ministers fell for that line of deceit. He's too cleaver for his own good.



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (8239)10/15/1998 1:00:00 PM
From: halfscot  Respond to of 13994
 
Don't know if posted - well worth reading.

An open letter to the president from a retired army officer:

Dear Mr.. President:

It's not about sex. If it were about sex, you would be long gone. Just
like a doctor, attorney or teacher who had sex with a patient, client or
student half his age, you would have violated the ethics of your office and
would be long gone. Just like a Sergeant Major of the Army, Gene McKinney,
who though found not guilty, was forced to resign amid accusations
of sexual abuse.

Remember the Air Force General you wouldn't nominate to be Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff because he freely admitted to an affair almost 15
years before, while he and his wife were separated? Unlike you, he was
never accused of having a starry-eyed office assistant my daughter's age
perform oral sex on him while he was on the phone and his wife and daughter
were upstairs.

If it were about sex, you should be subjected to the same horrible hearings
that Clarence Thomas was subjected to because of the accusations of Anita
Hill. The only accusation then was that he talked dirty to her; He didn't
even leave semen stains on her dress.

No, it's not about sex. It's about character. It's about lying. It's about
arrogance. It's about abuse of power. It's about dodging the draft and
lying about it. When caught in a lie by letters you wrote, you concocted a
story that nobody believed. But we excused it and looked away.

It's about smoking dope, and lying about it. "I didn't inhale," you said.
Sure, and when I was 15 and my buddies and I swiped a beer from an
unwatched refrigerator, we drank from it, but we didn't swallow. "I broke
no laws of the United States," you said. That's right, you smoked
dope in England or Norway or Moscow; where you were demonstrating against
the U.S.A. You lied, but we excused it and looked away.
It's about you selling overnight stays in the White House to any foreigner
or other contributor with untraceable cash. It's about Whitewater and Jim
and Susan McDougal and Arkansas, Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and Vincent Foster and
Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones and Karen Willey and nearly countless
others.
It's about stealing the records from Foster's office while his body was
still warm and putting them in your bedroom and "not noticing them" for two
years.

It's about illegal political contributions. It's about you and Al Gore
soliciting contributions and selling influence at Buddhist temples and in
the same Oval Office where Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt led their
countries through the dark days of wars that threatened the very existence
of our nation. But we excused you and looked away.

It's about hiding evidence from Ken Starr, refusing to testify, filing
legal motions, coaching witnesses, obstruction justice and delaying Judge
Starr's inquiry for months and years, and then complaining that it has gone
on too long. The polls agreed. Thank goodness that Judge Starr didn't read
the polls, play politics or excuse you and look away. He held on
to the evidence like a tenacious bulldog.

Your supporters say that you've confessed your wrongdoings and asked for
our forgiveness. Listen, what you said on TV the night you testified to the
grand jury was not a confession. Confession in the face of overwhelming

evidence is not a confession at all. Not that it would make a lot of
difference. A murderer who contritely confesses his crime is still a
murderer. When your "confession" didn't sell, even to your friends, you
became more forthcoming.
Maybe someday you'll confess more, but probably not. You've established
such pattern of lying that we can't believe you anymore. Neither can your
cabinet, the Congress or any of the leaders of the nations of the world.

When a leader's actions defame and emasculate our country as profoundly as
yours have, it no longer a personal matter, as you claim. It's no longer a
matter among you, your family and your God.
By the way, I don't believe for a minute that Hillary was unaware of your
sexual misadventures, abuses of power and pattern of lying. She has been a
party to your wrongdoings since Whitewater and Jennifer Flowers just as
surely as she lied about the Rose law firm's billings and hid the Vincent
Foster evidence in your bedroom for two years. Why? So she could share in
the raw power that your office carries. The two of you probably lied to
Chelsea, but that is a matter among you, your family and your God.

Remember the sign over James Carvill's desk during the l992 campaign? It
said, "It's the economy, stupid! Place this sign over your desk: "It's
about character, stupid!" No, it's not about sex, Mr.. President. If it
were, you would be long gone. It's about character; but we have to live
with your filth, lies and arrogance for a while longer. Your lies,
amorality and lack of character have been as pervasive as they have been
despicable, so we have no reason to believe that you will quietly resign
and go away. You'll count on half truths and spin doctors to see you
through, the country be damned. It has always worked before. We excused
you and looked the other way.

No more, we've had enough. You betrayed us enough. You have made every
elected official, minister, teacher, diplomat, parent and grandparent in
the country apologize for you and explain away your actions. Now go away,
and let us show them that our country was not without morals. It was just
that you were. Let us show them that America was not the problem. William
Jefferson Clinton was.

Go away, Mr. President. Leave us alone. And when you leave, know that your
legacy to the United States of America will be a stain on the Office of the
resident that is as filthy as the stain on Monica's dress. It will take a
lot of scrubbing to make it clean again.

---- Eric Jowers, a retired Army Officer, served as public affairs officer
at Fort Rucker from 1989 to 1991. He lives in Ozark, Alabama.




To: Don Pueblo who wrote (8239)10/15/1998 1:20:00 PM
From: halfscot  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
Nat Hentoff, Washington Post:

When Bill Clinton announced his candidacy for the presidency the first time, I started researching his record as governor of Arkansas to hear something about his principles.

I called a reporter I know in Little Rock. He had covered Clinton's entire political career to that point.

"What drives him besides ambition?" I asked. "What does he believe in?"

The reporter answered, "You won't believe this at first. In terms of what you're asking, there is no Bill Clinton. He has no principles he would not abandon if it costs him votes. However, he is a hell of a campaigner."

From what I have learned since, that Little Rock reporter turned out to be a keen analyst.

Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post:

...After the speech (Clinton's televised confession), reports The Post, the White House issued talking points to aides suggesting how they should react to reporter's questions about feeling betrayed by te president's deception.

Sample question: "Do you forgive him for misleading you and the country?"

Answer: "It's been said that 'He who cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself.' Of course I do."

This is the point at which cynicism turns into moral depravity. This president doesn't even allow the feelings of those betrayed by him to go unscripted, unsimulated, unmanipulated, uncorrupted.

Is there no end to the corruption of this man? Is there no dignity left among his staff?