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To: DMaA who wrote (9618)	10/15/1998 2:32:00 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Respond to of 67261

That's a great article David. I noticed that it called the St. Louis/KC plan "voluntary" . Well, that's a legally accurate statement, but the decision was made to go with the "voluntary" plan instead of the court mandated version. This was simply a decision made because it was a foregone conclusion that the busing would be ordered unless the state complied, so they opted for the voluntary plan in an effort to maintain some control. Some people just never learn. bp

To: DMaA who wrote (9618)	10/15/1998 3:34:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes	Respond to of 67261

>>> OT-Court ordered coup of school districts I have to admit you have a point here. This bussing plan was part of the old liberalism. It had it's roots, of course, in the days when white schools were nice and many black schools had no heat in the winter, no athletic programs or facilities, no chance of sending their graduates on to college, had colleges been accepting black students, in that time. Sometimes you were talking about no indoor plumbing, no books, white teachers who were the racist retards rejected by the white schools. Remember it wasn't so long ago that female and black admissions at Ivy league schools were debated. Still, this system is way past it's prime, if it ever had one. Busing subjects black and other students, mostly the disenfranchised ones but some middle class white students too, to bus rides of 1-4 hours per day. How a student can learn while they are doing that I don't know. Plus, it eliminates the possibility of the poorer student helping themselves and their family with a job after school. One also sees an increase in certain types of student crime. Whites were always able to move further and further away, so destroying the tax base of the formerly good schools that the bussing was intended to reach. Here in San Francisco the public schools have deteriorated completely as a result. Of course, there were other reasons for the cities to deteriorate. Developers were selling the American Dream, because developers make a lot more off suburban tract houses then they do off of apartments in the city. And we have always been afflicted in this country with the ideas of the English landed class, like the independence of land itself, home-beautiful style gardening, pastoral innocence and other such. Probably because we are mainly descended from the lower classes such as they would abuse in the old country. But the main factor for a lot of people is that they don't want their kids to have to pay the price for all this. Everybody in California with 10 grand in the pocket sends the kids to private school. Unless they live in Beverly Hills or Palo Alto. It's time to get rid of bussing completely. Schools in black neighborhoods can be supported with transfer payments if the tax base is inadequate, and I think most black parents would agree at this point. It's not so popular with minorities either at this point. Chaz