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To: Dave who wrote (16579)10/15/1998 8:27:00 PM
From: Asterisk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
Wow, you are really good at nit picking and twisting words.

Your source is the Q. I would recall that as a biased source.

Who said where I got my info from? Actually if you read all of my posts I use QCOM on very sparingly for this exact reason. I am getting my info from Gregg Powers independant research, what ETSI said earlier, and other places. I WILL NOT get into a pissing contest with you about this. I am confident that from the patents that I have looked up that QCOM has extensive and EXTREMELY important patents. I believe independantly that they do indeed have blocking IPR.

As far as rake reciever patents that is fine. If Ericcsson has similar patents whatever, QCOM still has the origional and controlling patents for CDMA. For changing the arguement, lets do so. Who has patents for Power control in a CDMA system? Who has patents for Soft Handoff (albeit under attack)? I could go on like this for a long time. If you don't have fast power control in all current applications of CDMA for handsets you are totally and completely sunk. Rake recievers and other stuff can be designed around. QCOM controls many such patents not just the few that I mentioned here. Unless you have some technical knowledge how can you evaluate the importance of specific patents?

They aren't. I have posted the number of patents Ericy has on CDMA
implementations.


Again you beg the question "how important are their patents to the current and future implementations of CDMA?" If they are spraying the wall with random patents hoping that one proves to be a blocking one then they are up a creek. As I am sure you now anyone can patent anything, but if noone else wants to use your ideas then all you have is worthless paper!

LIke the Q and W-CDMA, right? ARe you going to now admit that the Q's earlier patents on CDMA may not cover wideband applications? Sounds like you are about to.

This is where your genius for twisting and mangling someone elses words truly shows itself. I never have and never will say that this example applies to CDMA. This example was used to show exactly what it shows, one company blindly patenting everything and hoping that they can get someone else to pay them for it. The purpose of the vibration mode of a pager and the purpose of the vibration mode of a phone may be similar but you CANNOT say that the applications are similar. Just as you cannot say that while the engine of an airplane and the engine of a car have a similar purpose but you cannot say that the patents of one apply to the other! CDMA is CDMA is CDMA. If you need to use power control on one version and you didn't specify the spreading width of your power control in your patent then I would assume that your patent has applicability to all CDMA. All of the QCOM patents that I have seen are bandwidth independant, thus they are applicable to IS-95 or W-CDMA or W-CDMA NA or whatever other flavors of CDMA you want to quote me. They are only non applicable when the CDMA system doesn't use the IS-95 method of spreading and power control.



To: Dave who wrote (16579)10/16/1998 9:08:00 AM
From: Gregg Powers  Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 152472
 
Dave:

Please pardon my frustration with some of the so-called expert opinions that pop up on this Forum. Let me give you a perspective. My firm first became interested in Qualcomm early in 1994 when CDMA appeared little more than an interesting science project. Cynical disbelievers, my partner and I trekked out to San Diego, met with management, and then began a research process that has continued non-stop since then. In the summer of 1994 we established a modest position in Qualcomm while I continued to fly around the country meeting with the management of virtually every wireless operator in the country (both CDMA proponents and disbelievers). As the controversy heated up and 1994 turned into 1995, various European companies (read Ericsson) began circulating "white papers" delineating precisely why CDMA was inferior to TDMA. Remember now, as a professional money manager, I have access to the management...not just investor relations personnel...at virtually all the publicly-traded telecom companies, so I am crystal clear about what was being said, and by whom, during this period.

It really does get my blood pressure up when I reread my notes and see the blatant misinformation (read lies) emanating from Ericsson and various other GSM-centric equipment vendors. Despite the controversy, we trusted our own research and by the end of 1995, my firm had committed in excess of $100mm in capital to Qualcomm. Meanwhile, the pressure was rising daily as the background noise increased from the the pundits predicting CDMA's "inevitable failure". Remember that this was an extremely binary debate, with many well-credentialed experts offering highly-technical opinions as to why Qualcomm's CDMA would crash and burn. Industry consultants like Hershel Shostek, and so-called academic gurus like Stanford's Bruce Lusignan, repeatedly predicted plague, pestilence and "near-far" Armageddon for all of those who believed that CDMA would work. I vividly recall engaging Bill Frezza, another so-called industry expert and Ericsson's former director of marketing and business development, in a rather vociferous debate on the then-active Frezza Forum. Tero and others participated in the cacophony of negativity that at times was mind-numbing. So, despite all the apparent risks, and the horrendous implications of being wrong, why did we stay the course?

Through my research efforts, I developed a fairly broad range of industry contacts within the wireless community. We went to pretty extreme lengths. For example, we became Airtouch shareholders to gain access to senior technology and network personnel such as Craig Farrill and Gloria Everett (and, parenthetically, expanded our ATI investment because of them, talented managers like Sam Ginn and Mohan Gyani, and the realization that Airtouch is probably the best managed wireless operator in the world). We met with managers at Ameritech, Sprint, PrimeCo, Southwestern Bell and BellAtantic; we also spoke to technical and managerial personnel at Lucent, Motorola, Hughes, Samsung and Nortel...you get the point. After several thousand hours of research, and the compilation of a multi-year track record, one gets a pretty good feel for who was right and who was wrong, who knew what they were talking about and who was full of bull poo-poo. All of which brings me to Dr. Irwin Jacobs.

I almost cannot comprehend the time, effort and CPU cycles that I have committed to verifying Irwin's answers to my questions. Weeks, months, maybe even years of effort...all looking for one deliberate deception, one clever lie or one outright falsehood. Simply put, throughout this period, I cannot point to a single instance where Irwin has deliberately deceived me. Amazing. Yes, development timetables may have slipped and the company's earnings have not always met my expectations. But these are normal events in the course of any business and certainly do not reflect on management's candor or integrity. Throughout my almost fifteen years in the investment business I have met many smart technical people, many bright businessmen, many shrewd wheeler dealers and most everything in between but few men have earned the faith, confidence and respect that I hold for Irwin Jacobs. You probably won't believe this, but if I ever left the investment business, I would rather work with Irwin for free than to work for most anyone else at any compensation level. I find him inspiring, charming, dogmatic, pathologically ethical and absolutely brilliant...if this sounds like idolatry, so be it. But, the bottom line remains that Irwin has been absolutely candid and absolutely accurate regarding Qualcomm's issues, challenges and opportunities. Within this context, he has been absolutely emphatic about the company's IPR position and his pursuit of convergence.

So, once again, I am reliving the 1996 debate. Only this time the issue is not whether or not CDMA will work, but whether or not ERICY will somehow be able to deploy a CDMA solution without infringing on QC's IPR. On one hand, I have pointed and candid comments from Irwin corroborated by a litany of wireless operators/equipment vendors and our own IPR review. On the other hand, I have Ericsson's somewhat amorphous public position. To this point, I would suggest that you separate ERICY's verbal commentary from its more legally binding publicly-filed documents....I have yet to find, in such a documentary review, any affirmative statements by Ericsson as to its ability to do W-CDMA specifically without QC IPR. Against this backdrop, I have tried to candidly, ethically and openly educate investors on this Forum without sounding like a shill or otherwise embarrassing sources that have discussed the IPR issue with me in confidence. Having crossed swords with so many so-called experts, I will admit to intense frustration when I run across a potentially well-meaning, but woefully out-of-his-league, young lawyer endeavoring to opine on a very complex issue by counting the number of patent filings that cite "rake receiver". To wit, I have had the head of a major European manufacturer of GSM baseband chips (e.g. a major ERICY vendor) tell me flatly that "Ericsson's public position on wideband CDMA doesn't pass the "ha-ha" test". Since this position has been echoed by equipment manufacturers (excluding Ericsson), multiple wireless network operators and explicitly supported by Irwin, the whole W-CDMA debate, to my eye, is very a repeat of late 1996. That is, the "bears" and Ericsson partisans will maintain their position until proven wrong empirically, after which they will attempt to rewrite history and somehow reconstitute the story to suit their new fantasy.

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I will obnoxiously and aphoristically state that there really is no debate. Ericsson cannot deploy W-CDMA without QC's IPR and it knows so. This issue will not be resolved in the courts because Ericsson knows that it would lose. What you believe is an active debate I characterize as marketing noise and positioning by the Europeans. The good news is that the screw has turned and we are likely to see resolution of the W-CDMA debate within the next six months. I invite you to compare my comments today with the outcome within this timeframe.

Best regards,

Gregg