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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 4:27:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
I'll play this Fed cut game for the next few days then its back to cash.
Japan Fed rate is what? Look where its got them.
We laugh at Japans bad investments but look at Aol, Yhoo and the 'Thing' 2 years out and they'll be laughing at us.
In the mean time BUY! This might be the last of the best buying opportunities you'll see in quite a while.
<http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB908480169430206500.htm



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 4:37:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Respond to of 164684
 
William, If you want to insure your Internet Investments may I suggest you go to Lloyd's. I understand that they will also not mess with the 'Thing', citing its to risky.
lloyds.com



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 5:03:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Respond to of 164684
 
From an Amzn bull on TMF, whose opinions I've always respected.I'm curious how many of the bears on this board would have changed their position on Amazon had Bertelsmann bought 50% of them instead of B&N?

I know, as a bull but not a current shareholder, I would've bought in immediately regardless of valuation. If Bertelsmann's proposed investment was at a below-market price (driving the share price lower) and caused dilution to existing shareholders (thus providing more downward pressure on the share price), I would've guessed that the improvement in financial flexibilty and competitive advantage would have more than offset these factors.

I just can't believe that it was price that caused this deal to fall through. Then again, I never did agree with Bezos' decision to issue debt vs. a secondary offering. I think that decision increased the risk level of an investment in Amazon substantially since it started a clock ticking against Amazon's business plan. It always seemed to me like a greedy move based on share price/valuation issues rather than business plan/risk management issues. To me, that is no way to make decisions when you are an unproven start-up, with an unproven business plan, operating in an immature business environment. Bezos must be a major risk taker (which wouldn't be surprising given his prior experience as a hedge fund manager), a profile that may reward him and his shareholders greatly (or steer them all to the poor house - although I doubt we'll see Mr. Bezos at the local soup kitchen).

CouchPoDATO
"A bull who realizes that, with the benefit of hindsight, missed opportunites are often more painful then failed attempts"
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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 5:16:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
From TMF
<David<McDonalds or Gap or Dell, companies that did something unique well before the competition, and never got caught.>
Got caught at what? I find it amusing that you compare Amzn or even Yhoo to the above Co's.
Well before the above went public, what they had in common was profit making. Neither co ever, I repeat ever, said "If you love our concept, touch, feel and experience? We might make a profit by 2002", so please buy our securities.
The above co's never had to go to the Junk bond market to stay alive.
These 3 companies were making very nice profits before their stocks started to sizzle and sizzle and sizzle.
If you must compare Amzn to another start up entity?
May I suggest mining.
The ABC mining co is digging for gold. They raise $325 mil from speculators due to the hope and hype of finding this precious metal. The one thing going for the ABC co is, they are using a new technology called the Internet. The ABC co also fell on to something new.
There was a demand for Dirt. So they started selling Dirt over the Internet, albeit at a loss.
The speculators and Investors loved it because the demand for profit loosing dirt was so great the revenue continued to grow. The ABC co even told its investors that it was going to try and sell rocks, stones, clay etc ,
albeit again at a loss, until it finds the gold.
Please let me ask you. What will happen to the ABC mining co and it's Investors if they don't find that precious metal Gold?
Don't tell me Books, Cd's, Tapes, etc, because they're margin thin commodities and that's like Fool's Gold.
Fool on.
ps Have you ever heard of the Bre-x mining co?



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 5:29:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
William, is Barton Biggs talking to Mary Meeker?
interactive.wsj.com



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 6:12:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Online Bookstores in Europe
Must Walk a Straighter Line

By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

FRANKFURT -- At this year's Frankfurt Book Fair, Germany's Internet bookstore buecher.de AG regaled crowds about the many advantages of buying online. Discounted prices weren't one of them.

The familiar tale in the U.S. -- such as discounts and gigantic selections -- is a different story in Europe. Rather, success in Europe's booming online book world boils down to clever customer service, unusual shipping deals and special loyalty programs.

"The European market demands some real creativity," says David Risher, senior vice president of marketing and product development at Amazon.com Inc., which on Thursday launched both U.K. and German operations. "We're letting customers take the lead, reacting to their requirements."

The online book industry has been one of the hottest sectors of Europe's Internet industry. At the Frankfurt Book Fair, Dr. Gerhard Kurtze, president of the German publishers and booksellers association, said more than 1,200 German bookshops were already online, and that "considerably higher turnover is made from book sales on the Internet per head of the population in Germany than in the U.S."

Bigger Players Enter

That kind of growth has caught the attention of bigger players, who have since rushed to join the market. On the heels of Amazon.com, which replaces the sites of leading local companies it had bought in April, Germany-based publisher Bertelsmann AG plans to unveil its online store, Books Online, in November and will later link up with the online ventures of U.S. bookseller Barnes & Noble Inc. Separately, U.K. publisher W.H. Smith Group PLC took over the U.K.'s leading online seller, Internet Bookshop Ltd.

The U.S. online success stories such as Amazon.com have won customers by passing savings on their low overhead costs to customers through discounted book prices and by offering vast selections of books. But in many countries in Europe -- Germany, Austria and France, for example -- book prices are fixed and discounts are illegal. The U.K., meanwhile, restricts companies from selling many books published outside the country.

In response, companies have to find clever new ways to compete on price. One of Germany's largest online shops, buecher.de, for example, offers to deliver books free in the European Union and Switzerland. Amazon's new German subsidiary, Amazon.de, also will cut shipping costs for customers in Germany.

"The point is to make sure people know they're saving money somehow," says Georg Heusgen, a buecher.de board member.

English-language books, which aren't subject to Germany's price-fixing laws, are turning into a battleground. Amazon.de has compiled a list of 300,000 U.S. titles that it will ship free in Germany, and it won't charge value-added tax. Meanwhile, buecher.de offers a 10% discount on each of its roughly 600,000 English-language titles.

Standard Features

Customer service, meanwhile, is a must. In addition to the customary services on U.S. online sites -- book reviews, information about authors and chat groups -- European companies are offering promises on next-day delivery, gift certificates and local-language help desks.

The U.K. scrapped price-fixing last year, and online firms already offer discounts of as much as 40% on books. Online bookstores, however, are still struggling to compile the far-reaching lists of titles that make online sites popular, because the U.K. restricts the number of foreign-published books that can be sold in the U.K.

Amazon.co.uk spent months compiling a list of U.S. titles that didn't conflict with U.K. rules. Now, in addition to the 1.2 million U.K. titles in its cache, it has a further 200,000 U.S. titles, and is working to increase that number.

"We're attempting to be whiter than white when it comes to the laws, but also make sure our audience has the widest of choices," says Simon Murdoch, managing director of Amazon.co.uk.



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (21840)10/16/1998 10:15:00 AM
From: craig crawford  Respond to of 164684
 
>> How much market experience do you have? That statement is ridiculous. <<

About 2 1/2 years. How much experience did Merriwether have when he ran LTCM into the ground? How much experience did Druckenmiller have when he pissed $2 billion down the drain in Russia?

Experience means nothing...just like the Fed.