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Technology Stocks : How high will Microsoft fly? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: keithsha who wrote (11346)	10/16/1998 11:22:00 AM
From: ToySoldier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

Keithsha, You have got to learn not to put your foot so deep into your mouth. So you dont think NetWare is used for line of busines applications. First of all, do you know what "Line of Business application" is? The term is exactly what is says. Any application or system that addresses a line of business function. The type of software, technology, or application model is irrelevant. That being said, how many million examples would you want (since Novell has over 3.5 million servers out there and 80+ million nodes connected to these servers). Here are a few that you can consider if you want examples: The Chicago Merc., Ford, Air Canada, State Farm Insurance, Andover Controls, Chase Manhattan, Domino Pizza, EDS, IBM, Greyhound, Hallmark Cards, National Semiconductor, etc, etc, etc. Do you want any more examples... I just thought you might be bored hearing any more. The variety of line-of-business functions that are used by customers like these and Novell technologies like NDS, NetWare, BorderManager, ZenWorks, NetWare for SAA, etc. is almost limitless. Examples include, running Database engines on NetWare (just for your info, NetWare was running true Client/Server model technology with BTrieve before NT was even a gleam in IBM's eye - yes IBM - since NT was only a take-off of Os/2), being a mature app/data repository for line-of-business systems written on Batabases like FoxPro,Dbase,Access, etc. including Transaction Tracking logic capabilities in these databases, integrating business functions right into NDS (example: Peoplesoft forms that are actual objects in the tree), custom-coded NLM application services, etc. And now with NetWare 5 released, you will start to see Java/CORBA based server applications, VBasic, Perl, C++ applications on the server, and extended Oracle DB server usage since Oracle Server is free with every NetWare 5 server install. What you haven't yet figured out is that their a place for both NT and NetWare and Unix and Mainframe in the IT customer's shop. Its all or nothing for the MSFT-Lemmings like you. Unfortunately thats not how it works in the real world buddy! You better learn it REAL QUICK! As for the NDS database design flaws discussion and whatever else you were murmering about - I would love to compare the minimal issues that a mature DS like NDS has encountered over the libraries full of flaws, limitations, and implementation disasters that MSFT domain structures cause their implementers (and will continue to experience with Active Directory)! Please - I would love nothing better!!! If you want to get into a pissing match to compare NDS to Domains, you are more ignorant than I even gave you credit for! LOL!! Not even MSFT is willing to get into this discussion publicly because they know there isnt even a comparison between NDS and Domains (PS - Active Directory will also be under-pinned on Domains!! - let the Domain disasters continue when NT5 ever gets out). First of all, you can start by clarifying what your issue is regarding NDS database error conditions and design flaws? Please give examples. You didnt even make much sense on that. Then we can start to talk about domain design limitations, trust and multi-trust setups, bandwidth consumption on WAN links, domain controller failures and cut-over issues, etc. That would start. So keithsha, if you really want to get into a battle about this. Bring it on! Hmmmm - I love a good fight! Toy