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To: SOROS who wrote (641)	10/18/1998 1:11:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1151

To his "Abrahams" decendants forever. Well, even Abraham also married pagan women, as did all of his sons, and the Bible shows all of these pagan marriages consistently and on an ever lasting basis brought the Isrealites back to the same devil worship that Abraham LEFT in ancient Bablylon. Abraham, the BABYLONIAN (Jews were not then known in the Universe, and Abraham and all of his troup were genetic ancient Iraquis. Surely no one will be stupid enough to dispute that.) THat means that God has two standards: Ancient IRaqui DNA passed down and almost totally diluted can now, known as the ethnic group "Jews" can now hate Jesus Christ and throw their kids out and disown them if they even CO-EXIST with gentiles. As in have gentile FRIENDS. (No? Then you didn't go to college in Washington, D.C., with hundreds of Jewish kids in that exact situation, ashamed to tell their parents they actually liked gentiles, and dating them was a death sentence--as in being proclaimed DEAD.") So, Europeans of all manner and all asians and africans who worship satan and do his bidding are doomed to hell without Jesus. Jews who despise the name of Jesus, and as you see on the threads, rant and rave against Him for literally MONTHS ON END, all are just loved to death by God. Somewhere in between is sanity, as God is SANE. It is a never ending battle, and where does anyone find in the Bible that the Jewish obsessing is part of the walk following Jesus Christ anyway. I see Emile's point, on the extreme one side, and I see John Hagee's point--truly one of the most Isreal-captivity Christians extreme other side preaching today. And I do dearly love John Hagee and feel we share the same brain somehow on most things. But again, God is not nuts, and I'm just glad apparently this Experiment that Failed is coming to an end as the water and air and plants and animals are quickly running out. We cannot mix up DNA molecules with salvation, or I think we have rather missed the point completely, no? Especially when the DNA was Iraqui to begin with, married into the Philistines, etc., whose human sacrifice group fun activities, on a national holiday level, would chill our blood cold in our veins. And then Isreal continued through their kings to revive such fun on a national level--stopping at human sacrifice--or did they? I don't know how Solomon could built altars to Baal without going further. We just don't know. Nor did they have the National Enquirer to trail behind him and his devil worshipping wives to see if he was also visiting the Oak Groves at night. Hey. He revived devil worship himself. Solomon. I believe that is clearly stated in the Bible. After Solomon there were kings more putrid than the last until the whole country was sold into total devil worship back in Babylon WHERE IT CAME FROM ORIGINALLY WITH ABRAHAM. It's all very interesting, actually. I have no view of it, try actually to stay miles away from it, and the more I see it dissected the more I must remain neutral as it all seems an insane obsession on the part of non-Jews. Either way. New Covenant or Old. The non-Jewish DNA person is just not supposed to feel better or less than the Jewish DNA born again person. And that, I believe, is the whole of the teaching although we have turned it on SI into a decade of constant debate. It's very strange. Perhaps God gave us this preposterous rubic cube of logic to test who would let the dead bury the dead and follow Jesus. But if He really sent His Son so that the non-Jewish believers would all be brought back to the Old Testament, then it all gets too crazy for me and my brain wants to go watch Discovery and see some sweet animals. Because once back in the Old Testament all I can find outside of Abraham and David is Isreal in a fallen and disgusting condition, hastily reconstructing places of worship to satan. Much like dear America right now. I don't know why I post on this matter. But indeed it is a subject which only goes from thread to thread ad nausium as the world collapses totally while it appears on the surface to be in wonderful shape BECAUSE THE DOW CONTINUES TO GO BACK UP AFTER IT PLUNGES DOWN. O.K..... Perhaps the world is actually quite mad and all of the inmates are now inside the asyllum (sp.) I kidding of course. I can't pull in the "Hell" sound, but I do encourage all to try to. I'm going to dump some of my ancient software and see if that helps. I keep getting stuck in the middle of downloading sound on Real Player. Soros, I rarely get on SI or the net anymore as it consumes vast quantities of time--much like the Coneheads and Pepsi. But I was linked here as someone felt this response to Emile was quite exact, and it seems on the surface to be quite exact. I still try and stay 10 miles away from the subject at all times, as I just don't get the point of taking so much time to obsess on something so insignificant to the act of salvation and doing the "works of Jesus Christ". I guess maybe I can't see the forest for the trees anymore, as it is beginning to seem like an absurd argument to me.

To: SOROS who wrote (641)	1/17/1999 10:42:00 PM
From: Lucky Lady	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1151

SOROS, Bob put an October site of yours up which I read with interest and agreed with most...but..."not one jot or one title shall no wise pass from the law (in Hebrew the Torah),till ALL be fulfilled." Matt. 5:17-19 Has everything for told been fulfilled? No. The WHOLE Bible is one about: 1. whether you will choose--free will--God's way (law/Torah) or man's-- and 2. the lineage of the Messiah...and God's promises to Israel! THE COVENANTS ARE WITH ISRAEL... although others can choose to "come in"(Ex. 12:48-49;Levit.19:30-34;Romans 11:19)...and be adopted(Gal. 4:4; Eph. 2:11-14)..."UNTIL the full number of the Gentiles come in. And so ALL Israel shall be saved". (Romans 11: 25-36) Israel was blinded in part so that Gentiles could choose to "come in". (Romans 11:9-12; Ps. 69:23) There is no covenant with the church. The "church" developed a new religion in Rome under Constantine in the third century.Christmas and Easter and Sunday are pagan "traditions of men" incorporated (partly due to anti-semmitism) to form a new hybrid religion. These days are not Biblical. A day in the library can prove that. The "forget God's law" grace teaching is also rather new... I think it was Martin Luther. As you pointed out God's New Covenant is with Israel--NOT THE CHURCH! Hebrews 8:8-10 It does not do away with God's law (the Torah)it writes the law on men's hearts... not as laws on stone! (See also, Jerm.31:32-34) Men will want to follow God's law (Torah) out of love for him not fear of punishment! Doing God's law is to love him. (1 John 2:3-6;5:2-3) The definition of "sin" is transgressing God's law (Torah). (1 John 3:4 ) Jesus (whose Hebrew name was Yesuha) said if you " worked iniquity (look it up=lawlessness)"... and didn't DO God's will, you wouldn't enter the kingdom... (Matt.7:20-23)..where the sabbath (Sat.)will be kept (Is. 66:22-23); the Feast of Tabernacles (Zech. 14:16);and the Passover will be kept (Ezek. 45:21)...not the Christian days. The law given at Sinai was just a codification of known laws forgoten in Egypt. Noah, Abraham, God's people knew his law. Long before Sinai Noah knew the food laws(7 clean animals for food went on the ark not two!Gen. 7:2) Also, the Jews knew the Sabbath since creation --on the way to Sinai manna came in double portions on the sixth day so they could rest on the seventh! Ex. 16:25-30 Abraham was chosen because he was a law(Torah)keeper LONG before Sinai! Gen. 26:5! God's laws are truth, light, universal and for all mankind. He is "not a respecter of persons"...no variation nor shadow of turning (James 1:17) "I change not." (Mal.3:6) The saints are those who "keep the commandments of God."Rev.14:12 and will enter the kingdom...(Rev.22:14) The Jews don't see the Messiah but the Christians don't see the Torah (Law). There are not two books but one way! (Ep. 4:4-6; Gal.3:28) The true, first century church was Messianic (in English Christian) Orthodox Jews (Jesus, Paul, the apostles, etc.)! Not meant to offend but to share... LL