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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (1386)	10/18/1998 5:48:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1542

I see your point about these being Muhammad's teachings, although I'm not sure if Muhammad is guessing that the person would get punished for getting urine on him, or he would really get punished by God. Steve, It's very probable that at that time, drinking camel's urine and milk was viewed as a remedy. And again, perhaps it did heal people. But that has nothing to do with the religion of Islam or anything. Let me tell you one particular applicable story: One time Muhammad (Pbuh) was in the market where he saw a man with flowers. He approached the man and asked him how he was taking care of them. Then Muhammad (Pbuh) advised him on how he might take care of the flowers. Much later, he returned to the same man and asked him, "Did you follow my adive?" The man witht he flowers answered, "Yes, and the flowers aren't doing too well." To which Muhammad (PbuH) replied: "That is the value of experience over public opinion." In other words, in Muhammad's (Pbuh) mind, there was a difference between what he thought and what went in the book as revelation. He forbade anyone writing down his words during his lifetime unless he specificed that he was dictating a revelation because he didn't want his words mixed up with God's words. The Hadith is very confusing to me because the more I read, the more I can't tell what is from God and what is from Muhammad. The entire Qur'an is God's words. The Hadith are simply records of the sayings of the Prophet. What is disturbing as I read more is that I'm not assured that anything in the Hadith's are from God, because as you said they are not God's perfect word according to Islam. They aren't God's words at all. They are simply the records of Muhammad's (Pbuh) life so that we may know how to live our lives. But then, obviously the ludicrious teachings don't come from God! What is so ludicrous? That keeping yourself unclean is a sin? That the penalty for murder is death? I won't bring the Bible into this but you're standing on weak ground. Peace be unto you, Norris