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To: Jamey who wrote (21214)	10/20/1998 9:26:00 AM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"Sam, I found this on the net after hearing on TLC that the Jesus papyrus found in Egypt with fragments of St. Matthew is proven to be a manuscript of Matthew that was written within 30 years of Jesus life. Historically, this is great significance of proof of Jesus." It is no proof. There is no way you can prove that Jesus lived as a historical fact during the stated period. I agree that the book of El Marcus was written. The edited copy came much later as the book of Matthew, ""In following the historical development of the Gospel-New Testament from the time Jesus started preaching until John wrote the last Gospel account between 80 and 95 AD, we have found no evidence for alteration or falsification of the Bible." Neither do I. The Romans in order to add the edited Paul's writings had to wait til the people living during that time had passed on. The most of the Roman changes came about between 150 A.D. to 800 A.D. The fact some of the bits of John's manuscript were found are immaterial. First there is no proof of the author of the manuscript. Even granted it may be true it would just confirm what I have been trying to get across to you. John and Paul taught different Christs. John taught the impossible historical Christ while Paul taught the mystical,spiritual Christ dwelling in all. I wont bother to quote all the places Paul tells you that Christ is in you and your only hope of glory. Can you answer why Paul never met Jesus and had no interest in the other Apostles. Can you answer why Christ had to appear from either the first or third heaven? Seems would have been easier to meet in the same area if Christ wanted to meet him. The both were teaching at the same ime. Also Paul saw Steven stoned for his teaching the historical Christ. Was Paul afraid to meet him personally so he went in a trance to do so? How could Paul persecute the Christians? Seems the episode on the road to Damascus was inserted later to justify a change of heart and make him agree with John and the others. Again Santiago the question begs to be answered why the original manuscripts were not preserved by the Roman Catholics, why God would choose such a method of teaching to anyone who wouldn't protect it. All the few parchments found to date are ridiculous as proof of the bible as God's word. They are mostly Essene documents and contain nothing not already found in prior religions and mythical drama. You will also note the many documents of Jesus time by numbers of others that still exist. And you have no answer why all th jews wrote the bible in Greek.(I sure wouldn't write something important in a foreign language, would you?) Faith can make evidence when it doesn't exist. Your statements of proof would not bear up under close scrutiny as too much is assumption and fragmentary. To me it only shows how desparate Christians try to make others believe in their dogma of faith rather than reason and fact. For every fragment you can find there is only proof of repeated gospel of the ancients myths and sayings that the Romans historicalized.