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To: John Arnopp who wrote (1829)10/20/1998 10:34:00 AM
From: IJReilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4467
 
I'm no accountant either, but I believe the gain they recognized would be on the CCSC stock they "sold" in the takeover transaction. By the same token their basis in the TLAB stock they got in the deal would then be in the $80 range, so they would, I believe, be taking losses on the TLAB they are selling now.

IJ



To: John Arnopp who wrote (1829)10/20/1998 10:38:00 AM
From: John Arnopp  Respond to of 4467
 
OK,

I got my answer on the gain (they had to take the TLAB gain according to GAAP, and they will take any gains/losses quarterly as a trading security).

The big question as to when to get back in (aside from yesterday, which would have looked good :-() for me is "When will the offerings resume?" I think they'll announce by the end of the year, so I'm looking to get back in within the next several weeks, but at levels lower than today (SFE is already coming off its highs of the morning).

CATP is doing great, as is TLAB (800K shares sold by Safeguard in Oct.), and CMPC is down about 3/4, removing $0.60 in SFE's NAV. I'll post updated #'s after the close.

Good investing to all,

--John



To: John Arnopp who wrote (1829)10/20/1998 11:24:00 AM
From: David Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4467
 
It's probably being taken as a "books only" gain, and not a tax gain. I suspect they marked it to market, and will adjust quarterly to the market price. It will add volatility to SFE's non-operating earnings, since TLAB's change in market cap will flow to SFE's earnings, not TLAB's earnings. Purely speculation, of course.

Edit: Oops. I see you already got a definitive answer. Still not sure if I was right or not. <g>