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To: Zoltan! who wrote (10239)10/20/1998 3:48:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
BACK TO SOBRIETY...IMO, Hitler drew from both "Left" and "Right" in constructing his ideology..Would be happy to argue the point. :-)

Zoltan, it's too bad you overlooked what I think is the most interesting statement in the post you responded to, namely:

At this point I think both wings are weak, exhausted of ideas, run by complete
wankers. The left-right paradigm has completely run it's course, and we need a new model for processing ideas.


The same thing is true, IMO, of the conservative-liberal paradigm. At the moment, it only serves to perpetuate stereotypes..and to poison the atmosphere.

Perhaps I/we can get to that, once this very important discussion of Clinton Babes dies down...:-)

jbe

P.S. for Chaz. Some excellent points. But it's "its", not "it's". :-(
See: Subject 18306

(Just to show that where grammar is concerned, I do not discriminate on political grounds.) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)



To: Zoltan! who wrote (10239)10/21/1998 7:51:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 67261
 
>>> The International Left defended each and every move by Hitler as he vanquished central Europe.

What a complete load of crap. Hitler *was* the right wing leader of the times. The far-far right still adores him, secretly.

It was the English aristocracy that sold eastern Europe out to Hitler, with the full backing of american conservatives and the Republican party, most of whom voted against aid to England in the early days of the war, and many of whom gave pro-Hitler, anti-Jewish speeches, which yuo can still find in back issues of time and Life magazines.

The idea that you can turn Hitler into a creature of the left is laughable. American leftists were the first to actually lay down their lives in the fight against Franco and Hitler, in which they were absolutely opposed by the American right for a decade, ultil Pearl Harbor.

The american right has been a nurturing mother to facist dictatorships around the world for 150 years. Pinochet, Hitler, Franco, Chiang - none of them could have lasted as long as they did without the support of the right in the US. The latest example is the support of Novak and Evans for Baby Doc Duvallier in Haiti.

You are not 0.000001% clever enough to pull this trick off :-{

Ta,
Chaz