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To: Byron Xiao who wrote (73696)	10/22/1998 2:26:00 AM
From: jim kelley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

Byron, NT will be scalable when it needs to be. Solaris was not initially very scalable. It took a lot of work to get it to be more scalable. Sun does not have any monopoly on knowledgeable software developers. SUNW is being forced into the high end of the market (64 bits) now but this is not where the majority of the applications are. In time they will be squeezed out of that segment as well. SUNW has no monopoly on JAVA like languages. The lack of revenue in this area is very telling. JAVA will not save SUNW. The " chicken shit, children apps" that you referring too constitutes the vast bulk of the market. It is interesting that you arrogantly dismiss the market and make fun of it. SUNW is an arrogant company and that will probably be the ultimate cause of its demise. You should apply for a job there. You would fit in to the mindset that McNealy has edicted. Why don't you inform people about the number of lines of code in SOLARIS? SOLARIS is not LINUX.

To: Byron Xiao who wrote (73696)	10/22/1998 3:45:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

RE: Sun and Unix This is just a sales, not a tech analysis, but isn't the emphasis on developing Merced and McKinley based high-end dual-OS server systems by HP & everyone who wants to play (including Sun) a sign that the industry is merging Unix and WinNT users into one system capable of running both. The key it seems to me, is that NT systems don't scale well, and few vendors have worked out multiple processors with more than 10 mpu's. For heavy iron you have to use mainframes and big multiprocessor systems running some flavor of Unix like IBM, HP, or Sun. But if you do Unix already there is no way you're going to switch to NT without first shooting your IT staff (and you will have one!). They (he) will not tolerate it, and you shouldn't try it when it is so easy to scale and he can show you a cost effective path within Unix. No one wants to switch flavor either, but even that is much easier in most instances than moving to NT, because IT sees it as work to be done. In contrast, those who haven't had networks or have been running networks on dinky hardware may find it easy to switch to x86 servers and NT, which scales far beyond the their dreams of need. The woods are full of consultants who will write up bids with good hardware software prices and handsome consulting accounts so the customers doesn't have to know anything (which is great because few do)! I know of one small business that hired a consultant to move a small network from one building to another and plug it back end because no one in the place wanted to take responsibility for anything! Touching keyboards and on-off was as far as they go. To most, a server is just an expensive PC.