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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (10654)	10/22/1998 10:18:00 AM
From: jbe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Or: "A woman for duty, a boy for pleasure, a goat for sheer delight." The old saying that I quoted in an earlier post seems particularly appropriate here, especially since it is Turkish. Otherwise, one might think that American liberalism had invented "perverse" sex. <gg> And if you guys must talk about this subject, please get it right: it is "consensual", not "consentual". I wish it were as easy to correct misconceptions and misperceptions as it is to correct misspellings. jbe

To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (10654)	10/22/1998 10:38:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

boy was your reaction typical, and expected; even demanded by the PC crowd. Yes, that heinous, insidious, destructive PC crowd, that thinks meanness and hatred lack value as civic virtues. And btw, those are just your own moral opinions and moral judgements. But us nefarious PC liberal communists are not being prescriptive about our "morality". We believe in this awful doctrine known as "civil liberties". We have some common cause with the Libertarian wing of the Republican party, even parts of what used to be called "Conservatism", when Barry Goldwater was its patron saint. Poor Barry ran into some flack from thinkers more correctly moralistic than him at the end. Now mainstream conservative Republican doctrine seems to be this decline of the West due to moral decay thing. I was a lot less scared when I thought that doctrine was a fringe phenomenon.

To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (10654)	10/22/1998 12:40:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<Then go right down the same road you're on, and confront the questions of what exactly society should "accept" or "reject": Polygamy? >> I don't get why this is a focus of concern. Yes there are polygamists, and it seems to be a fairly easy standard (monogamy) to circumvent. What about heterosexual men who are oriented toward "doing" nearly every woman they see. I am picking on heterosexual men but it could be women as well or homosexuals as well. Of course it is not illegal anymore or even politically correct to make a negative comment, but should we have parallel educational initiatives (like the ones being suggested on homosexuality) to teach children to tolerate, understand, accept, condon, promote, champion the cause of people oriented toward this sexuality? Just asking